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re: What is this Board's Obsession with Cole?

Posted on 3/5/15 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by sma19
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
335 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 6:45 pm to
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I can't believe how much nonsense I am hearing about his massive sample size of horrid shooting in Miami being shot selection. One would think he came here and is shooting like Ray Allen. He's shooting 42% and 27% for 3 and 66% for FT since he's got here. So he's made literally 1 or 2 more 2 pointers than his average and his 3pt percentage and FT% are the same. And that's against a ridiculously soft schedule. It's not a shot selection issue. It's a he really sucks at shooting issue.


Wanna talk about sample size? The last two full seasons he shot 35.7% and 34.5% from the 3, not jaw dropping numbers but better than how your trying to spin it.
Posted by Simon
Member since Nov 2014
219 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 6:50 pm to
He is a decent player and the board likes anything not named Jimmer. He can do some good things though he is overvalued at this point.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:05 pm to
i don't care if he can't shoot for shite what he brings on the court doesn't show up on the stat sheets

last night his +/- was 13 when he was on the court. he is defending and helping get people in position to score
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:17 pm to
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Wanna talk about sample size? The last two full seasons he shot 35.7% and 34.5% from the 3, not jaw dropping numbers but better than how your trying to spin it.


Yeh, he had Lebron on his team. The sample size clearly shows that to be a massive factor.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:22 pm to
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i don't think anyone perceives his shooting as good.


"I really think it was a shot selection issue rather than a talent problem."

"saying eye test Cole doesn't look like a bad shooter. Maybe it's a shot selection issue."

That was just based on a search of the word "selection"..... Im sure more people implied it.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 7:24 pm
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6752 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:24 pm to
BC Cole is a great addition to this team. Will he be cp3 or rubio? Hell no. But he can be a damn good serviceable point guard for this team
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:30 pm to
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BC Cole is a great addition to this team. Will he be cp3 or rubio? Hell no. But he can be a damn good serviceable point guard for this team


I AGREE!!! Seriously, are y'all reading my post??? There are reasons to be excited about him, but when people start talking complete bullshite(him being a good shooter) it ruins the credibility. That's why people like Boom make fun of us for being homers. Because we say objectively stupid shite. Like claiming a dude is actually a good shooter as evidenced by a 42/27/66 7 game stretch. Lets just call a spade a spade. On defense, he is undersized but very good against the pick and roll. On offense, he is a terrible shooter and not particularly competent with the ball. Still probably better than what we had as backup without Jrue.

Boom is a complete troll. But we are somewhat easy targets. We are very guilty of Lake Wobegoning.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:34 pm to
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I AGREE!!! Seriously, are y'all reading my post???
are you reading our's? no one in this thread is fitting the description you claim is running rampant on this board
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:41 pm to
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We are very guilty of Lake Wobegoning.


Never heard of him, what's his story?

quote:

Boom is a complete troll.


Disagree 100%.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:55 pm to
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quote:


Boom is a complete troll.



Disagree 100%.



I am fully confident there will be no replies to this statement

Mainly due to Pels talk infatuation with Boom rather than Boom being a troll
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 8:01 pm
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6752 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:57 pm to
Then to your original post, who the hell ever compared Norris Cole to cp3 or rubio?

No one on this board that I have ever read about
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63486 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

What is this Board's Obsession with Cole?



Yo, brah. With your thread title, you kind of start off on the wrong foot. I think most of us think he's a very good addition. I don't think many think he's a superstar or even a starter.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:08 pm to
You are the master at

Posted by sma19
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
335 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:25 pm to
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Yeh, he had Lebron on his team. The sample size clearly shows that to be a massive factor.


EXACTLY! He had a superstar on his team, he did better when he had a superstar on his team. When he didn't he was asked to be more than what he was, a backup pg, and he did worse. Who does he have on his team now? And what is his role on this team?
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278321 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:35 pm to
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Like claiming a dude is actually a good shooter as evidenced by a 42/27/66 7 game stretch.



42% from a guard like him wont kill you. He shot that in his 2nd & 3rd seasons with Miami, so it's not out of the question that he keeps it up.

It's not like he's Rubio, who shoots 36% on his career.


His main contribution is being able to handle & defend the ball. He's not great, but he is clearly a bench upgrade for us, and has proven to be good enough to have a role on 2 championship teams



Post some of the quotes that are bothering you. Because your OP is confusing, as you talk out of both sides your mouth. "he sucks!1!!!, but I like him and he's an upgrade!!"

Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:38 pm to
#coleworld is a role player and he does as the rock used to preach "knows his role and shuts his mouth." We have some jabroni's around here tonight between the sexecutioner and Ol' boom-a-Licious
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 3/6/15 at 6:57 am to
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Post some of the quotes that are bothering you. Because your OP is confusing, as you talk out of both sides your mouth. "he sucks!1!!!, but I like him and he's an upgrade!!"



"I really think it was a shot selection issue rather than a talent problem."

"saying eye test Cole doesn't look like a bad shooter. Maybe it's a shot selection issue."
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/6/15 at 7:24 am to
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"I really think it was a shot selection issue rather than a talent problem."


I never said the guy is an all world shooter or something. He has a pretty nice shot based on what I've observed,maybe he's picking his shots better.

Also your numbers are a bit off,He's shooting right at 44% as a pel.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 3/6/15 at 7:27 am to
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"saying eye test Cole doesn't look like a bad shooter. Maybe it's a shot selection issue."


I'm claiming this and I stand by it and have explained it. It has nothing to do with me thinking he's better than he is. There's nothing wrong with throwing a reality check at the board, we do get out of hand at times, but I think in this instance it's much ado about nothing. It's not like anyone has suggested benching Tyreke and starting Cole, although now that I think about it...
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 7:28 am
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2400 posts
Posted on 3/6/15 at 7:32 am to
So, just to be clear....."Cole doesn't look like a bad shooter...." equals "This board's obsession with Cole"?

Cool.
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 7:32 am
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