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Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:49 pm to Crewz
Bender
someone posted on MORE SPORTS board that Heild hit on 85 of 100 3 point shots from the NBA line in his tryout for Boston.
I like Bender anyhow. Helld will be guarded in games.
someone posted on MORE SPORTS board that Heild hit on 85 of 100 3 point shots from the NBA line in his tryout for Boston.
I like Bender anyhow. Helld will be guarded in games.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:53 pm to CelticDog
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Helld will be guarded in games
He was guarded like glue in college and still managed to shoot close to 50% from deep.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 11:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
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college
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:09 am to Nolapels504
bender would be the pick
Don't get too excited if they pick the player you want , could be traded away minutes later
NBA is crazy
All about the Cap
Don't get too excited if they pick the player you want , could be traded away minutes later
NBA is crazy
All about the Cap
Posted on 6/14/16 at 5:26 am to Nolapels504
Trading back doesn't seem like an option unless you can get a good player in return. Just take BPA and try to develop the team.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:16 am to Suntiger
What if the BPA on YOUR teams board was a guy you knew you could get at 9? Then, wouldn't trading back and picking up 27 make sense?
If those three are gone, I don't think Chriss or Bender would be the highest guy on their board, given the mandate from ownership. Therefore, trading back for this GM would make sense, even though I would be begging them to take Bender, who is #4 on my board
If those three are gone, I don't think Chriss or Bender would be the highest guy on their board, given the mandate from ownership. Therefore, trading back for this GM would make sense, even though I would be begging them to take Bender, who is #4 on my board
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:40 am to Crewz
If the mandate is win now, which is dumb, nobody in the draft is going to come in and make us a playoff team. If they were, they would be gone in the first five.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:04 am to TigerinATL
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9 and 27 or 15 and 19 are the best combination of picks
Both of those are bowls of meh. I'd rather just stay put and get a good player, even if he requires some development. Anyone you get later will require development, too.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:15 am to Jester
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I'd rather just stay put and get a good player, even if he requires some development. Anyone you get later will require development, too.
Some draftniks don't see much separation in quality between 6 and 16 this year. If you believe that and trust your evaluations and development process, it's a worthy gamble.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:18 am to corndeaux
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If you believe that
I don't
quote:
trust your evaluations and development process
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:30 am to Jester
Oh the Pels will likely find a way to screw it up. 
I'm not up on the draft too much, but I do think this is one of those years where there isn't as much of a gap between mid lottery and mid 1st as usual. Just my take after some light reading; could easily be way off.
I'm not up on the draft too much, but I do think this is one of those years where there isn't as much of a gap between mid lottery and mid 1st as usual. Just my take after some light reading; could easily be way off.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:35 am to Crewz
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What do we do if Hield, Dunn, and Murray are all picked before our selection?
What if the BPA on YOUR teams board was a guy you knew you could get at 9? Then, wouldn't trading back and picking up 27 make sense?
How do those late 1s work out in the new salary cap world? I know they were kind of take it or leave it a couple years ago because you are giving a guaranteed contract to a marginal pick, does the higher cap really make it that much better?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:44 am to Jester
I mean, the 27th pick this year will be making 1 percent of your cap in 2017, 2018, etc
To put it in perspective, that is about half of what a min contract took up in past years.
If that guy hits, you are way ahead of the curve. Even if that guy becomes a Norman Powell, solid 8th man type, you are underpaying him by 500% or more of current market value. And you have him for 4-5 years locked in at that price unless he hits the starters criteria, in which case he makes a little more but you would happily pay 3 percent of your cap to a guy starting or playing 2000 mins per year
To put it in perspective, that is about half of what a min contract took up in past years.
If that guy hits, you are way ahead of the curve. Even if that guy becomes a Norman Powell, solid 8th man type, you are underpaying him by 500% or more of current market value. And you have him for 4-5 years locked in at that price unless he hits the starters criteria, in which case he makes a little more but you would happily pay 3 percent of your cap to a guy starting or playing 2000 mins per year
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:50 am to Jester
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How do those late 1s work out in the new salary cap world?
The back half of the draft guys from last year started about $1.1 million and in their 4th year will be at $2.2, then they become RFAs. As long as they are better than a guy you can get off the street it's a pretty good deal.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:51 am to Crewz
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If that guy hits, you are way ahead of the curve. Even if that guy becomes a Norman Powell, solid 8th man type, you are underpaying him by 500% or more of current market value. And you have him for 4-5 years locked in at that price unless he hits the starters criteria, in which case he makes a little more but you would happily pay 3 percent of your cap to a guy starting or playing 2000 mins per year
What if he's as useless as tits on a boar?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:52 am to Jester
Hope his dad is another team's GM/Coach.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:47 am to 504ByrdGang
quote:So. how many other draftees have proven their skills at a higher level than college? Even the international guys probably do not play a higher level of competition than the NCAA.
quote:college
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:01 am to Suntiger
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If the mandate is win now, which is dumb, nobody in the draft is going to come in and make us a playoff team. If they were, they would be gone in the first five.
Exactly. If there is really a win now mandate, then a rookie would not be in the plans. If the alleged win now mandate actually existed then Dell would have been allowed to trade the pick at the deadline for an established player, but he wasn't. He would also trade the pick for an established player now, but everyone knows that he doesn't have the authority to do that unless a legit all-star on a multi-year contract is coming our way.
ETA - Also does anyone seriously believe Ferry comes on board here if ownership is as meddlesome with the alleged win now mandate as bloggers report?
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:11 am to NOSHAU
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Even the international guys probably do not play a higher level of competition than the NCAA.
We pretty much dissected that in the Luwawu thread. Euros are playing lesser competition than the majority of college players.
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