re: What are you guys actuall expecting from our rookie?

As others have suggested, too many unknown variables to really be able to state expectations for our draft pick this year...which player, who do we sign in FA, injuries...etc.

I expect any rookie would at least have a role to play, but unless crazy injuries strike again I expect them to come off the bench and be low usage players this year. I think we adress the SF spot in free agency (S. Hill) as well as add a SG (make a play at Fournier). The only real expectation I have is that our draft pick should be an above average starter and make our team better in year 3.

Barring some homeruns in free agency, I also expect us to be in the lotto again next year. I don't think most fans care about the wins and losses next year so much as we just want to see some signs of hopefrom the rookie as well as some progression and cohesion from the team. I think most fans realize this team isn't competing in one year with just a rookie and some mid level free agents.

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Again, my point simply is that the team will have to add 1-2 players better than whatever rookie they add this summer for them to be an above .500 team

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And nobody will disagree with that. There isn't a player in this draft that will make this a winning team year 1 without other help, and that includes Simmons.

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You want your rookie to have a niche role his first year, not to be asked to do too much. Kawhi, for instance, was given a very limited number of things to do and work on his first year. The Spurs won AND he developed. That is the ideal.

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We're not the Spurs, though. They started out good, so this line of thinking is a total non-starter. Being one of the best-run organizations in pro sports is certainly ideal.

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I think it would be bad for a rookie to come in, have Gordon, Ryno, and Tyreke exit and a guy like Bazemore come in, and all of a sudden the rookie is the number 3 option. I want his role to be smaller and more specialized year 1

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I totally agree there. Unfortunately, I have little faith in Derps to make any of that happen.

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my point simply is that the team will have to add 1-2 players better than whatever rookie they add this summer for them to be an above .500 team

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Who do you think they go after? As noted in my post I can see Dell pursuing Solomon Hill to be a relatively cheap filler at the 3 and then make a play for Fournier to fill the 2.

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Who do you think they go after? As noted in my post I can see Dell pursuing Solomon Hill to be a relatively cheap filler at the 3 and then make a play for Fournier to fill the 2.

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They absolutely have to at least kick the tires on Batum, Bazemore, and Marvin Williams.

They will go after Batum hard and Gentry thinks Barnes is underutilized in GS and could be more of a playmaker here if given the chance. I am not so sure. Parsons will get interest if he opts out.

I don't think they overpay Bazemore. If they miss out on top fish, I think they go after lesser guys like Brandon Rush and hope they strike gold for a fraction of the cost. Oh, and Crabbe is a guy they might throw a deal at and force Portland to match

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27-30 mins a night, where the rookie has low usage = you can win

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It makes a case for Jaylen Brown then. Get out there at small forward to defend, rebound, run the floor and slash to rim as the 4th option on offense. One day, he will develop into more if his shot gets better.

We want a contributor year one. Everyone should expect a slow start, some ups in the middle, and a tail off at the end. Such is the nature of most rookie years.

By year 3, we want the rookie to be one of the better players on the team.

I think that's pretty reasonable.

I don't expect to be good next year. I'd like to see improvement and a reasonable transition to a roster that is logical and makes sense. Get better.

By the following year I'd like to be competitive (playoffs) and have a roster with some promise.

By years 3-4 we need to be competing for 2nd Rounds or a darkhorse WCF team or we can kiss AD goodbye.

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I'd like to see improvement and a reasonable transition to a roster that is logical and makes sense.

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That doesn't sound like Loomising.

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By year 3, we want the rookie to be one of the better players on the team.

I think that's pretty reasonable.

I don't expect to be good next year. I'd like to see improvement and a reasonable transition to a roster that is logical and makes sense. Get better.

By the following year I'd like to be competitive (playoffs) and have a roster with some promise.

By years 3-4 we need to be competing for 2nd Rounds or a darkhorse WCF team or we can kiss AD goodbye.

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this is perfect

the issue is this whole win now thing they've been trying to do. need to stop that. i don't expect playoffs next season. a 7 or 8 seed is possible, but i'm not expecting it unless they somehow go from worst injury luck to middle of the pack.

year after that should be surefire 6-8 seed. compete in first round. by 2019 they need to be a WCF team. i was reading that the clippers and hornicans (both CP's squads) are the only 2 teams in the west to have not reached a WCF since 2000. shite needs to end.

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With the West declining, where could the Pels realistically land if they add Batum, Rush, and Buddy (and QPon) and lose Ryno, Gordon, and Tyreke?

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Completely impossible question to truly answer, because there are so many moving parts with other teams.

I'd also want to see how the offense develops. You're losing some serious scoring with Ryno/Gordon/Tyreke. Buddy can score in college but he's going to have struggles, as everyone does, year 1. Batum isn't a big time scorer but he is a very good player. Brandon Rush it would be pretty difficult to know what we'd be getting there at this point in his career.

I guess you'd start Jrue/Rush/Batum/AD/Asik with Buddy , QPon, Frazier, Ajinca as your primary bench?

Depending on how things shake out that's anywhere from a 7 seed in a very weak year for the WC and everything gels perfectly, to a 9-10 seed team.

The following year you would need Buddy to take a step forward, make another pick that contributes, and shed Asik and get a decent replacement to take the next step.