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re: updated MVP race - Davis still 1st
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
Whatever it is, the different between 52.5 and 58.5 is 2 points per game. Dwight bricks way more than that away at the FT line each day. You act like that is enough to make up for Anthony Davis being better than Dwight at every other thing.
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:46 pm to Hazelnut
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Dwight didn't make it to the playoffs until his 3rd year either. And he didn't reach 50 wins until his 4th year
Don't put forth the effort arguing with him, his life is so insignificant that he lives to troll here..
The problem is no one ever says Dwight is a bad player. He is in fact an outstanding player, but there is no sane person who would take Dwight over AD right now.. Again no sane person..
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:48 pm to TheSexecutioner
That's opposing fg% the numbers in my links are from Inside of 5 ft.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:50 pm to Athletix
I said Davis is better offensively.
Howard is superior anchoring a league leading defense and rebounding.
Howard is superior anchoring a league leading defense and rebounding.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:53 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Howard is superior anchoring a league leading defense and rebounding.
A superstar in his 11th season is better on defense than a up and coming superstar in his 3rd season? SHOCKER!!!
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That's opposing fg% the numbers in my links are from Inside of 5 ft.
So you're using this stat to compare a traditional center to an athletic power forward? Seems legit.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:54 pm to Hazelnut
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A superstar in his 11th season
totally irrelevant when discussing who is better right now
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:56 pm to Boomshockalocka
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That's opposing fg% the numbers in my links are from Inside of 5 ft.
Right, but what about it? I count 60 shots per game taken against Davis. Is that the oppositions FG% when Davis is within that distance of the rim?
I think its just when they were in the game period. So effected by who else is out there with them. All this shows is how good the Pelicans defend things with Davis on the court. Davis doesn't usually play center, so those numbers say as much about Asik/Ajinca as Davis.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:56 pm to Boomshockalocka
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totally irrelevant when discussing who is better right now
But not irrelevant to who is more valuable.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:59 pm to TheSexecutioner
That is when Davis is defending shots taken within 5' of the rim. So when Davis is guarding someone who takes a shot at the rim it goes in nearly 60% of the time. That is NOT good rim defense. Howard on the other hand is at 52.5%.
Davis is still not big/strong enough to defend shots at the rim at the level that Howard does.
Davis is still not big/strong enough to defend shots at the rim at the level that Howard does.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:00 pm to Hazelnut
Yes Davis will likely finish higher in MVP voting that Howard.
However, Howards team will have a better record. Howard has Harden taking away some votes.
However, Howards team will have a better record. Howard has Harden taking away some votes.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:01 pm to Boomshockalocka
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That is when Davis is defending shots taken within 5' of the rim. So when Davis is guarding someone who takes a shot at the rim it goes in nearly 60% of the time. That is NOT good rim defense. Howard on the other hand is at 52.5%.
No it isn't. Davis doesn't defend 24 shots taken within 5' of the rim and 60 total shots per game.
You are misunderstanding what that stat is showing. Im not 100% sure I understand it. The difference is Im not forming opinions and passing things off as fact based on it.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:02 pm to Boomshockalocka
Who is the better overall player right now, Dwight or AD?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:03 pm to Boomshockalocka
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However, Howards team will have a better record.
Well I dont think many on here will argue with that. But I also wouldn't attribute the difference in records to the difference in davis' and howard's ability. I'd say it has more to do with the people around them. The Pelicans still have some pieces to add. Especially when EG is off the books.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:04 pm to TheSexecutioner
Just look at the %s if the other stuff confuses you too much.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:05 pm to TotesMcGotes
I'm not answering that question.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
Why not?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:08 pm to TotesMcGotes
Because AD is going to be the GOAT big.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:09 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Just look at the %s if the other stuff confuses you too much.
Its not confusing me. Its invalidating the statistics. What you think it is is not correct. Whatever that stat tracks, Davis registers 60 of them per game. He does not defend 60 shots or anywhere near that. That leads me to believe the stat just tracks shooting % of the opposition when Davis is on the floor. (that would be around 60 per game) Not shots he specifically contested. So all that shows is how good the Pelicans opponents FG% is from various spots when Davis is on the floor.
You are presenting it as something else. Do you have a link to the camera data that shows Davis/Howard's opponents FG% of the guy they are actually guarding?
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:12 pm to TheSexecutioner
Theres camera data on the nba.com site.
Howard is even better than I thought, sorry for linking the wrong info..
Howard 39.5% Davis is over 50%
Howard is even better than I thought, sorry for linking the wrong info..
Howard 39.5% Davis is over 50%
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:17 pm to Boomshockalocka
gotcha. this is what I was curious about. Not surprised Dwight is better at that. You have to remember he is a center though. Omer Asik is about as good at 40%. Probably not many better 1-2 punches than that.
But I agree, adding strength to Davis' game would make him a much better rim protector.
But I agree, adding strength to Davis' game would make him a much better rim protector.
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