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Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:47 pm to shel311
how many current coaches have led a team to the Conference finals?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:48 pm to Machine
I honestly believe you're just trolling now.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:49 pm to Fun Bunch
not sure what you're specifically referring to since you didn't quote anything, but i'm not. i wanted Van Gundy when we hired Gentry, and didn't like him at all. Didn't think we should have let go of Monty in the first place.
all that said, i think Gentry is the right guy for a team featuring DeMarcus Cousins.
all that said, i think Gentry is the right guy for a team featuring DeMarcus Cousins.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:21 pm to GynoSandberg
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You realize you just illustrated the point that a roster plays a huge part of a coach's success, yes?
I guess I didn't realize amare staudamire and Jason Richardson were that much better than Vince Carter and gortat. I guess that's not gentrys fault after all for being a below .500 team with two hall of famers and a plethora of role players that are still good role players today.
Of course it plays a huge role. The guy was claiming Gentry sucked B/c he didn't have talented teams. He took over a very talented team, and they regressed until he got fired.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
It's not about talent, it's about fit IMO
Example- D'Antoni had talent in LA and NY, but the talent didn't fit his system
You put Gentry with certain kinds of talent and he succeeds. But it wouldn't be with THIS kind of roster IMO
Example- D'Antoni had talent in LA and NY, but the talent didn't fit his system
You put Gentry with certain kinds of talent and he succeeds. But it wouldn't be with THIS kind of roster IMO
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:50 pm to Machine
based on what?
What exactly has Gentry done to give you a GLIMMER of belief he can get anything done?
D'Antoni came in and IMMEDIATELY affected Houston's offense. Look at them now ----
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WITH TWO PELICAN CAST OFFS THAT GENTRY COULD NOT DO shite WITH
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Gentry needs to be fired, he should have never been hired. IMO , he was only hired because Demps was too fragile and intimidated to hire JVG.
Speaking of which ------ is this team built for JVG or what?
F Gentry, he is actually worse than Monty --- I can't believe I was just forced to type that.
What exactly has Gentry done to give you a GLIMMER of belief he can get anything done?
D'Antoni came in and IMMEDIATELY affected Houston's offense. Look at them now ----
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WITH TWO PELICAN CAST OFFS THAT GENTRY COULD NOT DO shite WITH
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Gentry needs to be fired, he should have never been hired. IMO , he was only hired because Demps was too fragile and intimidated to hire JVG.
Speaking of which ------ is this team built for JVG or what?
F Gentry, he is actually worse than Monty --- I can't believe I was just forced to type that.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:57 pm to Balloon Huffer
Point is that the consensus was that D'Antoni was terrible and the game had passed him by after stints in LA and NY
I think Gentry could be great with the right roster. But he likely won't have it here unless CP3 comes or Dell can pull a playmaking wing out of his butt.
I think most of us agree they can do better than Gentry with the roster they are constructing (I want Messina), but I think calling Gentry a "bad coach" is just lazy. Because most coaches are dependent on having a roster that fits their scheme. D'Antoni didn't forget how to coach and suddenly remember.
I think Gentry could be great with the right roster. But he likely won't have it here unless CP3 comes or Dell can pull a playmaking wing out of his butt.
I think most of us agree they can do better than Gentry with the roster they are constructing (I want Messina), but I think calling Gentry a "bad coach" is just lazy. Because most coaches are dependent on having a roster that fits their scheme. D'Antoni didn't forget how to coach and suddenly remember.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 4:02 pm to Machine
quote:The general style of offense he talked about when he came over is literally the exact opposite of an offense we should run with AD/Cousins.
all that said, i think Gentry is the right guy for a team featuring DeMarcus Cousins.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 4:14 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I guess I didn't realize amare staudamire and Jason Richardson were that much better than Vince Carter and gortat. I guess that's not gentrys fault after all for being a below .500 team with two hall of famers and a plethora of role players that are still good role players today.
Amare and Richardson were in their prime and a perfect fit for gentry. Amare was averaging near 25 a game in Phoenix as one of the best players in the league and you wanna talk about a 34 year old Vince Carter and Gortat.
34 y/o Carter and Gortat are the type a guys we'd see on this Pels team and wonder why gentry sucks so bad
Posted on 2/24/17 at 4:39 pm to Fun Bunch
Utah is a bit different. Gobert isn't a force like Cousins/Davis. And Favors has been hurt a bunch plus he isn't that type of player either. They are driven by their wings, not their bigs like the Pels.
And the other 4s they have (Diaw, Lyles) are more playmaking 4s than scoring ones.
I think Davis/Boogie can work on offense, but it isn't a natural fit
ETA- I do think ball movement like Utah does is the recipe. Just that the ingredients in NO are different
And the other 4s they have (Diaw, Lyles) are more playmaking 4s than scoring ones.
I think Davis/Boogie can work on offense, but it isn't a natural fit
ETA- I do think ball movement like Utah does is the recipe. Just that the ingredients in NO are different
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:19 pm to GynoSandberg
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Amare and Richardson were in their prime and a perfect fit for gentry. Amare was averaging near 25 a game in Phoenix as one of the best players in the league and you wanna talk about a 34 year old Vince Carter and Gortat.
I was being sarcastic. Sort of.
Yes i know amare was in his prime and really good.
34 year old Carter is still better than 30 year old Richardson, and Gortat is younger than all of them.
A team of Nash, Hill, Gortat, Carter/Richardson, Robin lopez, Dudley, Frye, Brooks is better than a below .500 team, especially after most of them were just part of 5 seasons of 50+ wins.
He's not a good head coach, plain and simple. He can't adjust to his team personnel. Not being able to do that is what makes a bad coach.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:35 pm to TeddyPadillac
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He's not a good head coach
It doesn't matter. What matters is who are the realistic replacements and how AD and Cousins would feel about them. I do think if you want to try a guy like Messina you probably need to do it this offseason. If they don't play well down the stretch changing coaches should be an easier sell. If you wait until after next year when Cousins is a FA and AD can be offered the DPE, they are going to have a lot of leverage over who the next coach is, which I'm fine with. I'd let AD's BFF barber coach if that's what it took for AD and Cousins to resign.
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