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The problem with the way this roster was built

Posted on 9/9/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 6:05 pm
Everyone called it, it was way to dependent on having Jrue. With the lack of true playmakers or even guys who can create their own shots. Putting that much faith in one player was destined to fail. The season is over before it even started.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34292 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 7:40 am to
Another problem is all of the wasted assets on Tyreke. Net negative.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 8:07 am to
A lot of teams would be screwed if their starting point guards wife got a brain tumor and forced him to miss some time. Not exactly something you can play for. How would OKC do if Westbrook went out, or Washington w/o Wall, or the Grizzlies w/o Conley, and on and on and on.

Yes, this team is screwed because it lost its second best player, who happens to play perhaps the most important position in the league. We know. Not exactly a thought provoking observation
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 8:19 am to
The problem is that this isn't our first time being in this position of a viable back up ball handler. So when you know one guy wont be useful at all and the other has a reoccurring injury issue and hasn't played a full season in 3 year you would think to be better prepared.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21002 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 9:19 am to
Please tell me how many teams have a reliable backup pg that puts up similar numbers to the starter.

Your constant bagging on Jrue is annoying 504. I like some of your posts here and you know your shite but you have blinders on when it comes to the Jrue/Reke debate.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30109 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 9:21 am to
quote:

The problem is that this isn't our first time being in this position of a viable back up ball handler. So when you know one guy wont be useful at all and the other has a reoccurring injury issue and hasn't played a full season in 3 year you would think to be better prepared.



because the lingering medical problem of his was not allowed to heal properly for 3 years. Now that it was allowed to heal, who's to say that he would not have played the full season?
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 10:20 am to
Most teams starting pg hasn't played only 50% of their games in 3 years. Most teams have a secondary ball handler with Tyreke being out we know all we had was one.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21002 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:08 am to
You're so right. With us being a lottery team with massive holes at the wing position and sg with Jrue coming back 100% during the off season and tyreke rehabbing, pg should be the first thing addressed. Never mind the signings of Moore and Hughes.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:28 am to
Yeah, you should always assume one of your players wives, who is an elite athlete herself, is going to be diagnosed with something major and put ample resources into that position for when that very likely event happens

504, per usual, is right here
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:28 am to
You're right. Not even Anthony Davis is a true play-maker or shot-creator.

He's not really someone you can throw the ball to and have him make something happen. A lot of his points come from him popping out for a quick jump shot.

Pelicans would be good if they had a creating/scoring guard to take control of the offense.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30109 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:36 am to
That would be jrue. Our ortg/drtg is best when he's running the point.

Issue is he won't be available.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:59 am to
No you assume your pg who hasn't stayed on the court the past 3 years might not play a full season and your second ball handler is out till who knows when. So the team was banking on Jrue to have a healthy season with no issues which he has never shown here. We had one ball handler this roster and we knew if he was to go down we had no other viable option to playmake.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:03 pm to
And what was the alternative? Trade Holiday and sign Jennings? The real scary thing is there was a chance we don't get to resign Frazier. We got lucky he signed for as little as he did.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21002 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:05 pm to
One mishandled injured does not equal injury prone.

We knew he was 100% go to start the season and that the stress fracture was gone.

You just want to be so right about the team being wrong about Jrue yet the reality is he's the second best player and isn't replaceable, even reke isn't a good enough replacement.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

You just want to be so right about the team being wrong about Jrue yet the reality is he's the second best player and isn't replaceable, even reke isn't a good enough replacement.


How would you even know that we he never played meaningful games.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21002 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:29 pm to
Lol bro, you forgetting the playoff push two years ago when he was the spark?

Or how about the last game of the season that year where he lit up the spurs?
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:51 pm to
That never happened he couldn't even play 15 mins
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21002 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 4:18 pm to
Except he played 25 mins against the spurs.

You even bother to look up game logs?
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

With us being a lottery team with massive holes at the wing position and sg


and center/frontcourt.

The problem stems from 4 years ago and continued until this off season.

Given all of the holes on this roster and player availability this summer, wing depth was the way to go, regardless of questions about Holiday/Evans.
This post was edited on 9/10/16 at 4:25 pm
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 9/11/16 at 7:20 am to
We should have signed DJ Augustin as our backup.
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