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re: Terrence Jones has agreed to one-year deal with Pelicans
Posted on 7/14/16 at 4:06 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 7/14/16 at 4:06 am to The Pirate King
Well, this certainly is a nice surprise to wake up to. I like the move. Didn't think it was possible.
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Posted on 7/14/16 at 5:46 am to Jwho77
I like the pick up. Nice 3 point shooter, if I remember correctly
Posted on 7/14/16 at 6:21 am to Jwho77
NOOOOOOOO. Oh God no. I was so hopeful that we might be able to have a decent defense with Ryno gone. We replace him with one of the 2 or 3 forwards in the league who can match his utter terribleness on defense.
Terrence Jones was 561 out of 562 players in the NBA last year in real plus minus. He is horrible.
Terrence Jones was 561 out of 562 players in the NBA last year in real plus minus. He is horrible.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 6:54 am to NOLA Bronco
quote:Would have taken Robinson over him by a long shot. He has just been so bad recently, particularly defensively. He is young though, so there is hope. Hopefully this is a league minimum deal.
Ill take him over Thomas Robinson.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 7:20 am to NOSHAU
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Hopefully this is a league minimum deal.
It can't be much more than that, I think they had roughly 1 mil in cap space before this deal. He can battle Cunningham for minutes at backup PF, and if he proves to be a good fit he can can maybe take some minutes from Ajinça, pushing AD to play more center.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 7:22 am to Epic Cajun
I can't wait until he destroys Harden on the court.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 7:34 am to TheSexecutioner
It's a league minimum deal. It's unlikely he'll get major minutes unless he's playing well or we are fricked injury wide again.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 7:35 am to TheSexecutioner
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NOOOOOOOO. Oh God no. I was so hopeful that we might be able to have a decent defense with Ryno gone. We replace him with one of the 2 or 3 forwards in the league who can match his utter terribleness on defense.
Terrence Jones was 561 out of 562 players in the NBA last year in real plus minus. He is horrible.
If you look behind the numbers, there's reason for optimism. It's low risk, high reward.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 7:38 am to different arse
Looks to me like there is no deal and someone jumped the gun a bit
Posted on 7/14/16 at 7:57 am to CP3forMVP
Or maybe not, starting to see more people report it
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:01 am to Fun Bunch
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It's a league minimum deal. It's unlikely he'll get major minutes unless he's playing well or we are fricked injury wide again.
bullshite. Pelicans haven't diagnosed a defensive poison and kept them off the court since the Chris Paul era. Defense is almost completely ignored in decisions of who will be on the court.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:04 am to VOR
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If you look behind the numbers, there's reason for optimism. It's low risk, high reward.
Wrong. It's zero reward and high risk that we'll put him on the court instead of somebody who's not a bottom 3 defender in the league and all around garbage player. People are already starting to make the Ryno fallacy. "well defense isn't his strength, but his offense makes him a great contributor." His defense isn't below average. Its abysmal. He bleeds buckets and has no chance of making up for it on the other end of the court.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:19 am to TheSexecutioner
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high risk that we'll put him on the court
I agree with this. Unless he was close to being out of the league with no offers, I have to think the promise of playing time was made to someone that shares an agent with AD.
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His defense isn't below average. Its abysmal
His Defensive Real Plus Minus was terrible last season, but it was positive the previous season. I guess we'll see how serious/permanent the effects of his injury are.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:37 am to TheSexecutioner
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Wrong. It's zero reward and high risk that we'll put him on the court instead of somebody who's not a bottom 3 defender in the league and all around garbage player. People are already starting to make the Ryno fallacy. "well defense isn't his strength, but his offense makes him a great contributor." His defense isn't below average. Its abysmal. He bleeds buckets and has no chance of making up for it on the other end of the court.
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Two seasons ago, at the age of 22, Jones started 77 games for the Houston Rockets. He averaged 12 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist per game. Jones advanced metrics were where he really shined. He posted a 19.1 PER, a 2.2 VORP, and a 119 offensive rating paired with a 104 defensive rating. Since then, however, it has pretty much been all downhill for Terrence Jones. In the 2014-15 season, he suffered an injury that kept him out most of the season.
In 2015-16, among the turmoil of Houston's poor start, Jones fell out of favor with the coaching staff and started in just 11 games and only played in 50 games total. His PER diminished all the way to 13.5 and he posted the first negative rating of his career at 105 on offense and 109 on defense.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:45 am to TigerinATL
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I have to think the promise of playing time was made to someone that shares an agent with AD.
Supposedly AD was personally recruiting Jones. If it's a min signing for one year, it's definitely worth the gamble that he regains play from 2 years ago. His injuries have mostly been of the freak and not recurring variety...peroneal nerve damage, collapsed lung...etc. Maybe with a healthy offseason and a change of scenery playing with a familiar face, he can be a productive player again.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:49 am to NOFOX
Yeah jones, AD, and Jrue have the same agent.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:49 am to NOFOX
quote:Hopefully change of scenery will do him some good. Would be nice to see AD recruit some difference makers.
Supposedly AD was personally recruiting Jones. If it's a min signing for one year, it's definitely worth the gamble that he regains play from 2 years ago. His injuries have mostly been of the freak and not recurring variety...peroneal nerve damage, collapsed lung...etc. Maybe with a healthy offseason and a change of scenery playing with a familiar face, he can be a productive player again.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 8:49 am to TheSexecutioner
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Even if Jones doesn't show a giant leap in improvement this year, (sadly) he would probably still be leaps and bounds better than most of the guys currently on the Pelicans roster. Consider this, in his worst season he averaged a 13.5 PER. Dante Cunningham, Alonzo Gee, and Quincy Pondexter haven't had a PER that high in the past two seasons. *Cries!*
The thing I like most about Jones game, is that he is actually a two-way player. For his career, he has a 114 offensive rating and an 105 defensive rating. The Pelicans are in desperate, desperate, desperate need of guys who can play on both sides of the court. While Jones isn't a good three point shooter, he is an effective scorer with a career average 51% from the field.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 9:04 am to Whodatforlife21
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Yeah jones, AD, and Jrue have the same agent.
I'm fairly certain that I read that Jones switched agents at the beginning of free agency.
ETA: I think there is an over-reaction going on about his play. At most he would be taking the minutes of Cunningham and Ajinca. Those are not world beaters on either end of the floor.
This post was edited on 7/14/16 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/14/16 at 9:08 am to TheSexecutioner
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bullshite. Pelicans haven't diagnosed a defensive poison and kept them off the court since the Chris Paul era. Defense is almost completely ignored in decisions of who will be on the court.
K. That's why almost every player they signed this offseason is a good defender than can switch on multiple positions. They clearly traded Offense for Defense this offseason, and good system defenders as well.
A minimum signing guy that was once good and now isn't, that is still young, isn't something to lose your shite over.
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