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re: Ryan Anderson has been diagnosed with a herniated disc.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:32 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:32 pm to TigerinATL
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So you have to be 100% to get credit for "developing" players? Again, I'm not even saying he's developing players, I'm saying he's "developing" players.
Look, practically every single big man that's come through here has improved under Monty. Gustavo Ayon was showcased enough that he brought us back Ryno in a S&T, and now he's not playing significant minutes in the NBA. Ajinca was an afterthought and Monty had him tearing up the NBA in his first couple games. I think he understands the game from the eyes of the bigs because that was the role he played AND he is a great teacher in that regards.
I simply do not think that he understands the game from the eyes of the guards. He's never had to. All he knows is that his most difficult task was to keep them from getting to the rim, so he asks that of them. He's never been asked to manage a game. He wasn't even a HC before this on a failed team or a college program.
Look at the coaches that are coaching successful teams. By career coach I mean they knew they weren't going to be all-stars in the NBA and devoted themselves to the coaching profession, read between the lines at all the "career coaches".:
OKC - Brooks, career coach
Spurs - Pop, yeah...
Blazers - Stotts, career coach
Clippers - Rivers, PG
Warriors - Jackson, PG
Houston - McHale, coach, all-star, champion, played with and against legends
Suns - Hornacek, SG
Mavs - Carlisle, career coach
Wolves - Adelman, career coach
Pacers - Vogel, career coach
Heat - Spolstra, career coach
Hawks - Budenholzer, career coach
Notice, none of those were role-playing power forwards than assistants with one team under the tutelage of a failed head coach.
He is just simply over his head.
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:40 pm to ShamelessPel
McHale is a former big man coach which practically nullifies your argument. Way to skew your points to fit your argument..
What about Phil Jackson?
What about Phil Jackson?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:46 pm to HandGrenade
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McHale is a former big man coach which practically nullifies your argument. Way to skew your points to fit your argument..
Dude, are you freaking kidding me? McHale has accolades most All-Stars would DREAM of. To compare the 2 is ridiculous. He also failed his first time around as head coach.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:48 pm to ShamelessPel
I got that when you said it in the first post. I could've gone more into about how you singled out Monty's particular career path as if so many people have followed the same and failed. But I didn't, instead, I brought up another former big man that didn't have a hall of fame playing career but is one of the greatest coaches of all time.
Relax bro
Relax bro
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:04 pm to HandGrenade
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But I didn't, instead, I brought up another former big man that didn't have a hall of fame playing career but is one of the greatest coaches of all time.
Jackson coached in the minors for years before becoming the coach of the Bulls.
Am I saying Monty can't some day become a good coach? No.
Am I saying that he's going to need to put in some more time, probably as an assistant under better coaches than him to make that a reality? Abso-freaking-lutely.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:08 pm to TigerinATL
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Roberts 39.2% FG 36.4% 3P
Rivers 38.5% FG 36.8% 3P
92% FT, 3.1 ast/to
65% FT, 1.6 ast/to
Roberts rebounds a little better, and the raw defensive statistics are not as pro-Rivers as you'd think.
Neither of them really belongs on the court, unfortunately. Bring on Pierre.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:10 pm to ShamelessPel
That's more agreeable. I just think this team needs player changes more than it needs coaching changes.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:25 pm to HandGrenade
GTFO of here. There's been constant player changes for the past 3 years. Enough is enough.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:25 pm to HandGrenade
Why would we tank? We will not get that pick anyway. We would literally have to lose EVERY game and that is not going to happen. Some of you are just retarded and need to go play with your barbies.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:27 pm to supe12sta12z
He's a Monty hard liner. Brought up in the Kremlin.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:28 pm to supe12sta12z
Player changes will constantly happen regardless of the coach. It happens every year on every team.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:28 pm to Gtothemoney
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He's a Monty hard liner. Brought up in the Kremlin.
Nah..I just don't see any hire that'd be so much better.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:30 pm to HandGrenade
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I just think this team needs player changes more than it needs coaching changes.
Doesn't the fact that Monty has trouble doing more with less suggest coaching is an issue? Is out talenting other teams really a sign of good coaching? I don't think Monty's a terrible coach, but he has yet to show us he's good, and contenders usually have good coaches. If he's not a good coach after 4 years it's time to move on.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:30 pm to HandGrenade
Wrong. Great teams have stability and a core. role players movement is fine but a core needs to be established and emphasized here. The pelicans do not lack talent or ability. They lack stability.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:32 pm to supe12sta12z
Some of you all are right.. Change is needed. Just ask the San Antonio Spurs.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:36 pm to supe12sta12z
I think we have that core NOW in Holiday, Evans, Anderson ( 
), and Davis. I think it will be established in time. Barely half a season with these new guys, and they're the best group we've had since the CP3 years.
As for the talent issue, all we seem to have is talented players that underproduce. And I honestly think it's lack of coaching and lack of effort. But as I said, I don't think there's another coach out there that's gonna make certain people give effort.
), and Davis. I think it will be established in time. Barely half a season with these new guys, and they're the best group we've had since the CP3 years. As for the talent issue, all we seem to have is talented players that underproduce. And I honestly think it's lack of coaching and lack of effort. But as I said, I don't think there's another coach out there that's gonna make certain people give effort.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:40 pm to HandGrenade
can't get rid of pop jr
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:43 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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can't get rid of pop jr
I know you're being extremely facetious and sarcastic, but this is such a common misconception among other Pels fans. Monty was a freaking assistant intern under Pop.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:45 pm to HandGrenade
It all comes back to identity and I blame Williams for that. Are we the Ryan Anderson's Pelicans or the Tyreke Evans Pelicans? Who are we truly building around? Where is Davis, Holiday, and Gordon in all of this? Complimentary pieces or pieces we truly build around? We aren't setting roles nor are we even beginning to understand where all the pieces fit. Worst part is Davis and his development is being stunted in all of this mess. It's impossible for him to get consistent touches.
When the fan base don't believe we can win games with Davis, we have a problem.
When the fan base don't believe we can win games with Davis, we have a problem.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:51 pm to supe12sta12z
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It all comes back to identity and I blame Williams for that. Are we the Ryan Anderson's Pelicans or the Tyreke Evans Pelicans? Who are we truly building around?
No one player should be the face of this franchise. If you HAD to pick one then it's pretty obvious that face would have a beautiful, thick unibrow across it's forehead.
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Where is Davis, Holiday, and Gordon in all of this? Complimentary pieces or pieces we truly build around?
Those are 3 starters that it looks like they're trying to build around..
Of course, Gordon is the odd man out with being injured so much and not producing as expected when he isn't. quote:
We aren't setting roles nor are we even beginning to understand where all the pieces fit. Worst part is Davis and his development is being stunted in all of this mess. It's impossible for him to get consistent touches.
There have been a ton of injuries and experimentation with lineups because this team hasn't even had half a year together.
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When the fan base don't believe we can win games with Davis, we have a problem.
Who believes that? I believe we can..that's dumb.
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