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re: Pelicans "Extremely Active" in Trade Talks
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:12 am to NorthshoreTiger76
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:12 am to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:As he said, simply a guess. Probably based on Dell's tendency to trade minor pieces.
Michael McNamara ?@McNamara247 My guess on Pelicans "activity" in trade talks is that they are acting as a third team in may scenarios. Adding a minor piece, not moving EJ
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:12 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Pels get: Afflalo
Yes please. I take back everything good I said about Aminu. He's a bum.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:18 am to Gtothemoney
Isn't Afflalo a 2? I think he's 6'5"
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:19 am to Spitting Venom
I thought he was a 3.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:19 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Pels get: Afflalo, Ramon Sessions
Magic get: Austin Rivers, Earl Clark, CJ Miles future pick from Charlotte
Cavs get: Eric Gordon
Charlotte gets: Dion Waiters
Interesting... I'd take that in a heartbeat, if only for the cash savings of about $7m a season for swapping Gordon and Affalo.
Affalo being able to play the 3 in addition to the 2 is a bonus.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:20 am to TigerinATL
I know the Cavs are in turmoil, but do you think they would give up Waiters, ECJ, and CJ Miles for Gordon?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:20 am to NorthshoreTiger76
I hate to say McNamara's right, but he probably is. I don't see us making any "big" moves (ie a guy like Monroe). I see us maybe making a small move for another bench PF or cap relief, that's about it.
I would love to move Roberts.
I would love to move Roberts.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:20 am to Gtothemoney
quote:
I thought he was a 3.
82 Games says he plays both, with him playing more 3 than 2 in Orlando's lineup this year.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:22 am to teke184
If we can somehow pull that off, how would our cap space be for next year? You know, so we can pull in monroe as well
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:23 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
I don't see us making any "big" moves (ie a guy like Monroe).
Why?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:24 am to Spitting Venom
quote:
I know the Cavs are in turmoil, but do you think they would give up Waiters, ECJ, and CJ Miles for Gordon?
Miles is a useful asset for them, so it may be a bit much to ship him out.
Clark? Useful mainly as an expiring contract since next season is a team option which will probably be declined.
Waiters either needs a change of scenery or a clue-bat upside the head. It seems unlikely that Mike Brown or the veterans in Cleveland will be able to get him under control, so a change in scenery may be necessary.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:25 am to htran90
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If we can somehow pull that off, how would our cap space be for next year? You know, so we can pull in monroe as well
If we renounce Sessions, it is a net savings of about $9m since Gordon is making $14m, Rivers will make $2m if his option is picked up, and Affalo is making about $7-8m.
As far as total cap space goes, we'll have the following tied up if we renounce all rights and decline a number of options-
Tyreke at $11.2m
Jrue at $11m
Anderson at $8.49m
Affalo at $7.56m
Davis at $5.67m
Morrow at $1.14m (player option)
Withey at $800K
That is $45.8m for 7 players.
There would be five cap holds of about $800K out there as well, since there have to be placeholders for at least 12 players on the roster, which means at least $49.8m in cap room tied up.
For this amount, we'd have to renounce the rights or decline options to the following-
Sessions, Aminu, Steamer, Jason Smith
There would be no qualifying offer tendered to Miller or Roberts either.
IF the cap number stays the same at about $61m, that means about $12m to play with.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:26 am to teke184
Orlando has been playing a lot of 3 guards lineups.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:26 am to teke184
I saw this one on RealGM and thought it was interesting:
Bucks get: B.Gordon
Pelicans get: Mayo/Zaza
Bobcats get: E.Gordon
Its not sexy, but it is interesting. Bucks get cap relief for a tanking team, Bobcats go in to win now mode (assuming they don't get Evan Turner). We get a Center and Guard, and essentially turn Gordon't contract into two smaller deals, both of which are slightly more movable and are useful players.
Bucks get: B.Gordon
Pelicans get: Mayo/Zaza
Bobcats get: E.Gordon
Its not sexy, but it is interesting. Bucks get cap relief for a tanking team, Bobcats go in to win now mode (assuming they don't get Evan Turner). We get a Center and Guard, and essentially turn Gordon't contract into two smaller deals, both of which are slightly more movable and are useful players.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:29 am to GynoSandberg
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Why?
I don't think we have the assets that someone will want to make a "big" move. Obviously, it depends on your definition of "big".
We don't have a #1 pick to move.
We aren't moving AD or Jrue.
Ryno is a tough sell right now because of the injury, so you'd be selling really low, which would be a mistake (if he's even tradeable).
Gordon has a huge contract, so IF someone wants him, you probably aren't getting a star or anything in return.
The rest of our guys are basically moving pieces for pieces, nothing I would consider "big"...although it still could be a nice move that nets us a useful player.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:32 am to Spitting Venom
quote:
I know the Cavs are in turmoil, but do you think they would give up Waiters, ECJ, and CJ Miles for Gordon?
Alonzo Gee seems to be having a pretty down year, swap him out for Miles if it changes anything. Again, the Cavs GM is in a pretty bad situation that could see him get fired if he doesn't fix it by the trade deadline. Waiters value is probably pretty low because he's getting a team cancer reputation. They just traded for Deng to fix problems and the first thing he does is tell the local papers how messed up things are. That doesn't sound like someone invested in staying and solving the problem, he'd keep that in house if he was interested in fixing it. The Cavs GM has limited options available to keep his job.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:33 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Yeah, could see Rivers being moved or a combination of expirings - Smith, Steimsma and/or Aminu
The rest of our guys are basically moving pieces for pieces, nothing I would consider "big"...although it still could be a nice move that nets us a useful player.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:35 am to Fun Bunch
I think anything involving Gordon would be considered "big". Whether it's a player(s) or an expiring contract.
The public never predicts trades that actually happen. Even the major NBA writers. I wouldn't let the lack of "smoke" or the fact that McNamara says nothing will happen get your hopes down. Next thing we know, Gordon is getting shipped out to a team no one ever talked about.
The public never predicts trades that actually happen. Even the major NBA writers. I wouldn't let the lack of "smoke" or the fact that McNamara says nothing will happen get your hopes down. Next thing we know, Gordon is getting shipped out to a team no one ever talked about.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:42 am to teke184
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There would be five cap holds of about $800K out there as well, since there have to be placeholders for at least 12 players on the roster, which means at least $49.8m in cap room tied up.
You can kind of ignore one of those cap holds, as any player signed would replace that cap hold. That puts you $49M. So, $12M for one player, 12.8M for two players, 13.6M for 3 players before the $61M line you are assuming (not sure what the cap will be)
Posted on 2/4/14 at 10:42 am to GynoSandberg
I agree with you, Gyno.
Thr big trades are less common, so therr is no reason to expect them at a particular time unless you know something is in the works (see Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony). There is always hope.
Still, unless the team getting him is really willing to roll the dice, waiting for Gordon to get a healthy season under his belt at the rate he is playing is a good idea. He is overpaid, but if a team can not acquire a better player for an expiring or with an MLE, an over the cap team wanting to make the playoffs may take the chance.
Thr big trades are less common, so therr is no reason to expect them at a particular time unless you know something is in the works (see Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony). There is always hope.
Still, unless the team getting him is really willing to roll the dice, waiting for Gordon to get a healthy season under his belt at the rate he is playing is a good idea. He is overpaid, but if a team can not acquire a better player for an expiring or with an MLE, an over the cap team wanting to make the playoffs may take the chance.
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