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re: Only 7 Games back from the 4 Seed

Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:39 am to
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:39 am to
LOL, no not even close. Anthony Davis has a 3.10 real plus/minus. KAT is 1.27 with a big negative on offense. KAT is mostly just getting a few garbage buckets by standing next to the goal with the opportunity cost of somebody else not getting those high percentage garbage buckets.. He doesn't create anything for their offense. AD has had to. AD hasn't been as good this year as last(in large part due to trying to make him a perimeter player IMO), but is still far better than KAT.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:44 am to
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If Houston is healthy and taking the games seriously they will beat a .500 team just as often as they'll beat a .350 team or a .200 team so I don't get too caught up in the SOS stuff.


Are you still spouting this nonsense? Simply isn't true and you were clowned in the other thread. Strength of schedule ratings are not driven primarily by how many times you've played the Lakers vs the 76ers vs the Nuggets. Even if they were, its still very relevant.

How many times out of 100(50 home/50away) does Houston beat the Lakers when they are trying??

How many times out of 100(50 home/50 away) does Houston beat the Jazz when they are trying?

Exactly the same amount of times? Or you are just spewing nonsense?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:51 am to
WS/48

Towns .18
Davis .14


VORP

Towns .8
Davis .7


BPM

Towns 2.2
Davis 1.2


Towns is killing him in nylon calculus rim protection #S too.


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KAT is mostly just getting a few garbage buckets by standing next to the goal with the opportunity cost of somebody else not getting those high percentage garbage buckets..
Uh Towns shoots better from every interval measured by BBALL REF besides "at rim".

3-10 TOWNS
10-16 TOWNS
16- 3PT TOWNS
3PT TOWNS
FTs TOWNS

Jump shots TOWNS
Hook Shots TOWNS
Lay ups ... TOWNS


idiot
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:54 am to
The nonsense is assuming that just because Team A and B have the same winning percentage that they have the same chance of beating Team C.


quote:

How many times out of 100(50 home/50away) does Houston beat the Lakers when they are trying??

How many times out of 100(50 home/50 away) does Houston beat the Jazz when they are trying?


Too bad they play 1 game and not 100. If Houston is playing well it don't matter if they play the Knicks or Sacramento they will win that game. The difference in SOS doesn't make a hill of beans in the actual result of individual game.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 10:57 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:00 am to
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Strength of schedule ratings are not driven primarily by how many times you've played the Lakers vs the 76ers vs the Nuggets.


Math ain't your thing I guess bro, Playing teams that have extremely bad or good records(see 76ers and Lakers) drive SOS MORE than playing the .500 team.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:03 am to
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We're almost halfway through the season and don't even have 10.
Do you know how many NBA games there are? We are only a third of the way through the season. 33%.
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:07 pm to
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You can't tell me with a straight face that this roster is worse than the Blazers, Kings, Timberwolves, Nuggets, Suns, Jazz, Mavs, Knicks, Celtics, Hornets, Magic, Pistons and Pacers.


Sure I can
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63443 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:25 pm to
Hey, can you guys take all the Houston shite to the Rockets board. TIA
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34250 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

The problem with this team isn't talent or injuries right now. We have plenty of depth


The issue is mix and fit of talent.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
32967 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:23 pm to
If we fire Gentry now we can still make the playoffs
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:43 pm to
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And no, we aren't halfway through the season. We aren't even a third of the way through.


1/3 = 33.33%
27/82 = 32.92%
28/82 = 34.14%

We are as close to a 1/3 of the season as you can possibly get.


Nice points everywhere else though.
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Our players haven't suddenly gotten smarter. They're still dumb as hell


They were smart enough to win 45 games last year in a tougher West, significant injuries, and with a coach everyone thought was holding the team back.
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:50 pm to
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The issue is mix and fit of talent.


Don't let the lineups that Gentry decides to trot out on the court fool you. Of course it's going to look bad when he plays Tyreke and Cole in the same backcourt. Or when he glues Ish to the bench unless it's to stupidly pair him with Cole in the backcourt. Or when he jumbles up Tyreke, Cole, Gee and Asik out on the court together. We have a really good mix of players. Last year we only had about 6/7 NBA quality players before we picked up Dante, Cole and Q Pon so of course Monty was going to struggle with his lineups. The injuries were tough the first 12-15 games, but we literally have no excuse now.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61440 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:53 pm to
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They were smart enough to win 45 games last year in a tougher West, significant injuries, and with a coach everyone thought was holding the team back.


Thibs ain't walking through that door to tell them what to think.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2229 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 1:57 pm to
If this team gets above 500 by the end of the year AD will have earned my MVP vote.

I don't see it unless Gordon catches fire like he did the end of last season, Asik puts it together starts giving 20-25 good minutes a night, and Qpon stabilizes the 3. Along with MVP AD, thats a lot to ask this season.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61440 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:03 pm to
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The injuries were tough the first 12-15 games, but we literally have no excuse now.


This isn't about excuses, it's about style of play. If the team wants to be the Spurs/Warriors etc, they need smarter players to run those systems. If not they should have done what most people on this board wanted, a Monty upgrade that would maintain the offense while fixing the defense. I think the team has chosen, so unless they decide to clean house and change course, we need a new set of players and anyone that has Low BB IQ, Ball Stopper, or Bad Defender listed in their player profile needs to go.
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:06 pm to
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Thibs ain't walking through that door to tell them what to think.


Thibs wasn't in the building last year either.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59690 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:10 pm to
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If this team gets above 500 by the end of the year AD will have earned my MVP vote.
it would be a disgrace for a player from a .500 team to even finish top 3 in MVP much less win it. You play to win the game, if you ain't doing that at an elite level you aren't the MVP.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2229 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

quote:
If this team gets above 500 by the end of the year AD will have earned my MVP vote.

it would be a disgrace for a player from a .500 team to even finish top 3 in MVP much less win it. You play to win the game, if you ain't doing that at an elite level you aren't the MVP.


FYI, AD got the 5th most votes last season. I'm not betting on it, but IF this team can play .750 ball the rest of the way and makes the playoffs with AD balling out, I guarantee you he finishes top 3.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 2:23 pm to
It's interesting.

They are 7-8 since the 1-11 start. That's PTAO territory. This team only played about 2 months of 50 win ball when they thought they were fighting for their coach's job. Doesn't mean they can't capture that magic again, but they were a mediocre team for most of last season.

And that Prada piece hints at the fact that the defense with this group just might not be fixable, even by a Thibs or JVG. Erman is a Thibs protege, just like Thibs is a JVG protege. Certainly those two guys have serious chops, but I don't think the concepts would be radically different.

This piece on the need for defensive versatility hits on something deeply flawed with the Pels. Outside of perhaps the most versatile player in the league, the Pels are almost exclusively littered with one dimensional players on either side of the ball. It's almost criminal how limited they have turned out around Davis.
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