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re: NBADraft.net 6/24 Mock: Pels picking Nerlens Noel

Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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278261 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:22 am to
Yea that's the only reason you'd draft him.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71992 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:22 am to
Seriously? Obviously that stuff is secondary to his performance on the court. Take a deep breath my man
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34259 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:23 am to
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Yea that's the only reason you'd draft him.


Well, placing any importance in it is already heading down that slope, so....carry on.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42289 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:23 am to
sooooooooooooooo would coach Cal just come coach the pelicans after too if this happened?
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80164 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:24 am to
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including darius, we could be the pelicats.



just wait till we draft Willie Cauley-Stein next year
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:24 am to
So now everyone's talking about Noel and Porter as real possibilities I'm going to be pretty pissed when we end up drafting Burke now
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:24 am to
are athletic big men like Noel the way the league is trending now? seems like skinnier big men who play almost a combo PF/C position are becoming more of a norm than the pure centers the league had in the 90s.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34259 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:24 am to
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Take a deep breath my man


Why? Is this a trap? Did you just shite yourself?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278261 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:24 am to
Well, character is very important
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278261 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:25 am to
Otto porters lack of size is more concerning than Noel's IMO
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34259 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:26 am to
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ooooooooooooooo would coach Cal just come coach the pelicans after too if this happened?


Yeah, let's go ahead and complete the World Wide Wes Circus. Hell, maybe we could go ahead and trade all of them to the Knicks for a protected first in 2025.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9759 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:27 am to
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In my opinion, winning will go farther in winning new fans than any PR ploy like that. If that's why you're drafting him, our front office is in trouble.


I agree. I don't know if it has been said, but supposedly he keeps some shady company as well. He couldn't/wouldn't pick an agent for a long time. He has other injury and development concerns. There is a reason he is starting to drop now. I don't see why NO would pick him. He is not going to be ready for at least the 1st half of the season and will be slowly adjusting the remainder. So his entire rookie year will be a waste.

The PR stuff just doesn't matter. They'd get a bigger bump bringing home a Lsu or Louisiana based player (trading for Monroe?), but everybody on here always says how stupid that is..
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34259 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:27 am to
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Otto porters lack of size is more concerning than Noel's IMO


He's 2.5 inches shorter and only 8 pounds lighter and will never be asked to defend Marc Gasol one on one in the post....
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:28 am to
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Yeah, let's go ahead and complete the World Wide Wes Circus.
Well we did have Chris Paul for a while there...
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34259 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:28 am to
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The PR stuff just doesn't matter. They'd get a bigger bump bringing home a Lsu or Louisiana based player (trading for Monroe?), but everybody on here always says how stupid that is..



Eggggzactly
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34259 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:29 am to
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Well we did have Chris Paul for a while there...


We see how that worked out in the end.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71992 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:31 am to
There is still a lot of bulk at the center position in the league. A lot of 250+ centers. But you can only "bully" a guy so much without picking up fouls. I don't think size is as much of a concern if we are talking a 230 lb Noel. Sanders, Noah, Chandler, Bosh, etc enjoyed recent success at lighter weights than their counterparts.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278261 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:32 am to
He'll have to guard big athletic 3's is space. Not only is he slight but he has average athleticism

Noel can get pushed around but still has his athleticism. Shot blocking and length can negate "power".
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:32 am to
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Yet Monty always mentioned our need to improve perimeter and wing defense specifically


Well if Noel drops, the permeter defenders aren't available. Plus there is FA and there is more than one way to skin a cat. A back line of Davis/Noel can clean up mistakes.

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So, which rim running center plied his trade in the conference finals this year? Gasol? Hibbert? Duncan and Splitter? I can't even think of Bosh doing much running. 


So we are judging the effectiveness of a rookie player/skill set based on what teams, who dont have an athlete like Noel at the 5, did in the conference and nba finals? Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

To answer your question, San Antonio got out and did some rim running.

Rim running doesnt have to be a fast break. Its beating your man down the floor and getting good, deep position on him or a smaller help defender or sucking help in leaving a shooter open. This is what Pop was talking about in his huddles when he kept telling his guys PACE.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115592 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:35 am to
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are athletic big men like Noel the way the league is trending now?


Obviously yes.
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