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Mike Miller's Comments on how to beat the Warriors (Pels-related)
Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:57 pm
He said today on The Jump that he believes that the best way to beat the Warriors is not through just have great players, but to have the right system. And the best system to do it is though the use of a big frontcourt. He specifically pointed to the Spurs model.
Now obviously, although the Pels have arguably the best frontcourt in the NBA, we lack the outside shooting really complete with Golden Stats. But maybe, just maybe we have the right model in place. Our mold and structure is in place, with just the right fillers we can get there.
This isn't a groundbreaking news thread at all, but thought on Mike Miller's comments and how they relate to our team?
Now obviously, although the Pels have arguably the best frontcourt in the NBA, we lack the outside shooting really complete with Golden Stats. But maybe, just maybe we have the right model in place. Our mold and structure is in place, with just the right fillers we can get there.
This isn't a groundbreaking news thread at all, but thought on Mike Miller's comments and how they relate to our team?
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:08 pm to oncealurker
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we lack the outside shooting really complete with Golden Stats
That's a pretty big understatement
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:28 pm to Fun Bunch
nah this league is guard driven and built around ball movement and 3 pt shooting. Golden State beats everyone in those categories and they also have Kevin durant. nobody will compete or keep up with them in the west as long as they stay together. 2 allstar bigs is great but unless the pels somehow add an elite guard and 3 pt specialist that can shoot 40+ percent from 3 they dont stand a chance. Cleveland has frickin Lebron Kryie and K Love and they are getting embarassed.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:34 pm to oncealurker
Best way to beat the warriors is if a tsunami or earthquake wipes out the entire team or the NBA does away with the 3 point line
Posted on 6/9/17 at 3:44 pm to oncealurker
Princeton 4 corners
Posted on 6/9/17 at 4:08 pm to oncealurker
One player type they really need is what Buddy was going to become. The shooter/scorer that runs all over the court non stop bending the defense. Jordan Crawford might be able to pull it off, but his defense was really bad so I'm not sure if they can have him on the court more than 20-25 MPG.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 4:25 pm to TigerinATL
I agree with that they need one dead eye shooter that runs the around the court throw off the defense. JJ Redick could be that guy if we let Jrue walk but like you said with Crawford his defense would be the issue.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 4:57 pm to oncealurker
That is pure X and O's and in theory he is right. But there are things like playoff and championship experience that they will have in spades over the Pels that will trump us, even if the roster gets close. Their coaches and players all know how to win at the highest level. We don't even have guys who know what it feels like to win a single playoff series.
The bottom line is beating GS anytime in the next 4-5 years is a pipe dream and shouldn't even be a goal. Just get good enough to get to the playoffs and give your city something to be excited about.
The bottom line is beating GS anytime in the next 4-5 years is a pipe dream and shouldn't even be a goal. Just get good enough to get to the playoffs and give your city something to be excited about.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/9/17 at 5:25 pm to oncealurker
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He specifically pointed to the Spurs model
the Spurs only had one big man play more than 20mpg in the most recent series. now, last year, i would buy it a little more. you could hide a big on Barnes when they went Death Lineup and just live with him beating you. but even then, in the one game they beat the 73 win Warriors, Duncan played 8 minutes and playmaking 4 Diaw played 35 minutes next to PF Aldridge at the 5.
with this iteration, i dont think you can go with two bigs. Durant at the 4 is too quick and skilled for bigs. you need wing defenders who can maybe make things sort of tough for him (there aren't many of those guys around). maybe you can hide a big on Iguodala? if i'm the Pels, i probably put Davis on Green and Cousins on Iguodala with Hill trying to keep up with Durant.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:17 pm to J_Hingle
quote:
nah this league is guard driven and built around ball movement and 3 pt shooting. Golden State beats everyone in those categories and they also have Kevin durant. nobody will compete or keep up with them in the west as long as they stay together. 2 allstar bigs is great but unless the pels somehow add an elite guard and 3 pt specialist that can shoot 40+ percent from 3 they dont stand a chance. Cleveland has frickin Lebron Kryie and K Love and they are getting embarassed.
Spot on ---Not sure why you getting all the downvotes.(I said something similar the other day and was down voted to hell). The NBA is fricked. The (arguably?) second best player to ever walk the courts of the NBA can not get a single win on GS in the finals, never mind the fact that they also swept everyone else they played. Not sure how any other team can even begin to think about beating GS in the playoffs while this unit is healthy and intact.
Besides AD is only 24; No star wins at 24. Our window to win with AD will be 3-5 years from now. Just keep building and getting experience.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:46 pm to The_Duke
Durant going to the Warriors is the same as Magic jumping to the Celtics after losing to them in 84. Nothing is comparable to this and it will take a few teams to load up to possibly challenge them. Of course, it's never happened before because most players of that caliber could never imagine doing something like that. But today we are rather soft and usually like the easy way out so KD is the perfect "star" fir 2017.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:12 pm to oncealurker
What's our system?
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:35 pm to Crewz
You're never gonna get that experience unless you get there though. Present them with a team that causes them match up problems and give it everything. Stranger things have happened.
But we will need a lot more offense from the perimeter. And someone on the wing that can create offense and make defenses respect his dribble drives.
But we will need a lot more offense from the perimeter. And someone on the wing that can create offense and make defenses respect his dribble drives.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:10 pm to Eman5805
My point is:
Don't hold out hope for this. Don't let this be your bar.
I have followed this franchise since 1993 and there have been more bad seasons than good. A playoff birth is rare. Give me 47-52 wins and I'm good. No reason to shoot for the impossible. Let's just all be very satisfied with not embarrassing
Don't hold out hope for this. Don't let this be your bar.
I have followed this franchise since 1993 and there have been more bad seasons than good. A playoff birth is rare. Give me 47-52 wins and I'm good. No reason to shoot for the impossible. Let's just all be very satisfied with not embarrassing
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:12 pm to oncealurker
If the league eliminated the hand-check rule, the Pels might just have the perfect formula to beat the Warriors.
If I start a petition, will y'all sign it?
It's a terrible rule that has damaged the game immeasurably.
I DGAF about the Olympics and if foreign 7-footers can't body up in the paint or play D using the forearm between the elbow and wrist, maybe teams shouldn't draft them so high.
frick the hand-check rule.
Shaq is retired FFS. All the primmadonna bitches that lobbied for it can either man up or realize that there will never be another Shaq so they can at least rest easy at night knowing he'll never play again.
/rant
If I start a petition, will y'all sign it?
It's a terrible rule that has damaged the game immeasurably.
I DGAF about the Olympics and if foreign 7-footers can't body up in the paint or play D using the forearm between the elbow and wrist, maybe teams shouldn't draft them so high.
frick the hand-check rule.
Shaq is retired FFS. All the primmadonna bitches that lobbied for it can either man up or realize that there will never be another Shaq so they can at least rest easy at night knowing he'll never play again.
/rant
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:15 pm to Crewz
quote:
My point is:
Don't hold out hope for this. Don't let this be your bar.
I have followed this franchise since 1993 and there have been more bad seasons than good. A playoff birth is rare. Give me 47-52 wins and I'm good. No reason to shoot for the impossible. Let's just all be very satisfied with not embarrassing
If the fricking hand-check rule didn't exist, the Pels would be as much of a threat to derail the Warriors as anyone.
That rule pussified the game too much. They need to get rid of it and bring back big boy basketball.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:23 pm to Number 31
The Warriors have so much skill but they also have such an advantage between their ears. The lowest IQ guy in their rotation is smarter than our highest IQ guy
Hand checking wouldn't help that
Hand checking wouldn't help that
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:44 pm to Crewz
High IQ can't stop being physically overwhelmed.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:25 pm to Number 31
Sure it can
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