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Loomis should stick with football
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:59 am
Not sure why fans are giving him a pass. He admitted while most evp's were out exploring areas to improve their team he was out scouting football players. The Williams fiasco showed that he is actually in control and can override Demps as he sees fit.
Now we learn the reason Van Gundy nor Dumars were not called is because they basically don't fit the personality that loomis wants them to have(they will call out bs if they saw it)
There are numerous writeups on the role loomis's dual role. Now that both franchises are struggling maybe its time for the pelicans to get someone who can devote 100% of his time to basketball operations.
AND THATS HOW YOU START FRESH
Now we learn the reason Van Gundy nor Dumars were not called is because they basically don't fit the personality that loomis wants them to have(they will call out bs if they saw it)
There are numerous writeups on the role loomis's dual role. Now that both franchises are struggling maybe its time for the pelicans to get someone who can devote 100% of his time to basketball operations.
AND THATS HOW YOU START FRESH
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:08 pm to karralum
While I believe this is true too. This won't change.
Loomis and Dennis Lauscha are basically owners. And this won't change under this ownership.
Loomis and Dennis Lauscha are basically owners. And this won't change under this ownership.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:11 pm to Mystery
Does loomis even consistently attend pelicans games?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:29 pm to Pelicans8
He admitted not being at the game when the Pelicans beat the Cavs...He was out scouting football.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:30 pm to karralum
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The Williams fiasco showed that he is actually in control and can override Demps as he sees fit.
The Williams fiasco? Monty? How did Loomis override Demps? From everything we know, Monty was let go after losing a power struggle with Demps.
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Now we learn the reason Van Gundy nor Dumars were not called is because they basically don't fit the personality that loomis wants them to have(they will call out bs if they saw it)
How did you "learn" this?
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There are numerous writeups on the role loomis's dual role.
FWIW, I think they will hire an actual POBO at some point. Hopefully this offseason.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:37 pm to NOFOX
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How did you "learn" this?
Google the thread title. Go through first 3 searches (start after the ads) All points are covered ;)
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:47 pm to karralum
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Google the thread title. Go through first 3 searches (start after the ads) All points are covered ;)
So from your googling you learned that Loomis didn't call Dumars because he doesn't fit the personality that Loomis wants???
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:54 pm to karralum
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Not sure why fans are giving him a pass.
We've been calling him out here for a few years.
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The Williams fiasco showed that he is actually in control and can override Demps as he sees fit.
If Monty and Demps had found a way to get along I bet they are both still here. But things reportedly got bad between the 2, Loomis was forced to choose and he chose Demps. That wasn't overriding Demps, that was backing Demps up.
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Now we learn the reason Van Gundy nor Dumars were not called is because they basically don't fit the personality that loomis wants them to have(they will call out bs if they saw it)
I too would like to know where you learned this from. And what do you mean not called? JVG interviewed twice.
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AND THATS HOW YOU START FRESH
Loomis is the proxy for the owner, all owners have veto power. But the problem isn't that Loomis can veto Demps, it's that he's let Demps go unchecked for too long. An actual POBO would have NBA experience, contacts and ideas that would help Demps. If they don't fire Demps I at least want to hear that Ferry is sticking around or even that Dumars is becoming POBO.
Danny Ferry as POBO with Demps as GM wouldn't exactly be starting fresh, but outside of the Hill contract I think most of us don't hate the moves that have been made since Ferry came on board in an official capacity.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:01 pm to karralum
He was at the Senior Bowl that week.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:04 pm to karralum
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Google the thread title. Go through first 3 searches (start after the ads) All points are covered ;)
How about you learn to link something you goofy imbecile.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:39 pm to karralum
Why even let him stick to football?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:02 pm to TigerinATL
I want Loomis away from both teams.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:14 pm to karralum
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He admitted not being at the game when the Pelicans beat the Cavs...He was out scouting football.
Shouldn't he have people to do this? Like actual scouts. Is this why we pick so many busts?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:12 pm to TulaneFan
A lot of GMs attend the Senior Bowl so it's not that crazy that he was there.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 9:19 pm to Hester Carries
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How about you learn to link something you goofy imbecile.
Stop being entitled and lazy.
I didnt want to link 3 different reads. I figured you'd look it up, get interested and want to check out other sources. BTW De Shazier wrote a nice piece on Loomis needing to stick with football.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 9:57 pm to karralum
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Now we learn the reason Van Gundy nor Dumars were not called is because they basically don't fit the personality that loomis wants them to have(they will call out bs if they saw it)
Maybe you could atleast give us a link for this part, since none of us have heard or read anything like this.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:00 pm to TigerinATL
Loomis has zero to do with personnel decisions within the pelicans organization. Why is this so complicated for ppl to understand.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:34 pm to sainttrain713
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loomis said he prefers a clear hierarchy in which the coach answers to the general manager, who in turn answers to ownership
This was his quote after the Williams firing. It must be noted also that Williams had a good relationship with Benson and had no problems speaking with him directly.
Clearly he knew it was all Loomis,
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