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Is Gentry Tanking or is he just this bad?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:40 am
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:40 am
He throws the players under the bus. A lot. He's played Norris Cole like he was a career sharpshooter in a slump that he'd get over soon. He complains about things you should expect to happen with the rotations he puts out there.
Seems like a reasonable complaint except:
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Since it looks like we might finally have enough negative momentum to throw this season on the fire, is Gentry an idiot and long term problem, or is he craftily driving the tank and making sure the GM, and not the Coach, is the fall guy?
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Jim Eichenhofer ?@Jim_Eichenhofer 6 hours ago
Alvin Gentry: "We gave up 4 offensive rebounds in the last 4 possessions. (The game's) got to mean something to us. That's the bottom line."
Seems like a reasonable complaint except:
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Alvin Gentry wanted to play small as the game clock melted away in the fourth. Norris Cole, Jrue Holiday, Tyreke Evans, Alonzo Gee, and Ryan Anderson was his lineup and I did not like it one bit. Rather than space and move New Orleans slowed it down and went to repeated ball screens by Anderson to create post ups if the Lakers switched. It is running an offense with the hope of creating step back jumpers. I don't blame Anderson nearly as much as Gentry for poorly utilizing Ryno.
The defense with Anderson as the "rim protector" was exactly what you'd expect. The offense had a few blips of competency, largely out of time outs when the Pelicans ran set plays. The last real possession looked like a set up for a Tyreke-Ryno pick and roll. Evans rejected the screen down three and elected to settle for a step back of his own making. Hideous.
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Since it looks like we might finally have enough negative momentum to throw this season on the fire, is Gentry an idiot and long term problem, or is he craftily driving the tank and making sure the GM, and not the Coach, is the fall guy?
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 6:42 am
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:06 am to TigerinATL
Gentry is a bad coach.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:16 am to TigerinATL
Last night looked very much lot like a tank job. No sane person puts Cole at pg, Gee at PF, and Ryno at C and expects anything less than what happened to end the game.
His lineups were awfully suspicious last night and his dedication to Cole was inexplicable. I don't buy his post game presser. No one with half a brain makes those moves against one of the worst teams in the league unless their is intent to fail. I refuse to acknowledge that he is that stupid and that no one on his staff (including Erman) would not mention how phenomally bad those ideas were.
His lineups were awfully suspicious last night and his dedication to Cole was inexplicable. I don't buy his post game presser. No one with half a brain makes those moves against one of the worst teams in the league unless their is intent to fail. I refuse to acknowledge that he is that stupid and that no one on his staff (including Erman) would not mention how phenomally bad those ideas were.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:20 am to TigerinATL
I think it's a little of both.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:27 am to TigerinATL
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Is Gentry Tanking or is he just this bad?
Both
#tankforsimmons
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:32 am to TigerinATL
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is Gentry an idiot and long term problem
Yes
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making sure the GM, and not the Coach, is the fall guy?
He's trying like hell. He sure can present a chart, though....
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:41 am to NOFOX
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No sane person puts Cole at pg, Gee at PF, and Ryno at C and expects anything less than what happened to end the game.
And I'm not sure I've ever heard a coach call out the players with this much regularity. I'm not saying Gentry's a good coach, I just wonder if there's more going on than him not being a good coach. He's had enough interim jobs to have seen what it takes to get someone above him fired. He probably also realizes that adding a top 3 pick makes him a much better coach.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 7:43 am
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:47 am to TigerinATL
His lineups have been horrible all season. Some of that is on a poor roster and injuries, but he is just as bad as, if not worse than, Monty at rotations/combos.
At this point, he's been a disaster hire. The fit has been bad, injuries have been bad, and he has been bad.
From players to coaches to management, the Pels are just a poor organization right now
At this point, he's been a disaster hire. The fit has been bad, injuries have been bad, and he has been bad.
From players to coaches to management, the Pels are just a poor organization right now
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:48 am to TigerinATL
We lost to the Lakers. Regardless of Anthony Davis playing, you don't lose to the Lakers. So for Gentry's sake, you better hope that he's tanking.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:50 am to Mystictiger
So this is not new for this team. Monty lost to the Sixers and awful Knicks in th span of a week last year.
There is something more fundamentally wrong with this team than "Fire the coach!"
There is something more fundamentally wrong with this team than "Fire the coach!"
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:56 am to corndeaux
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There is something more fundamentally wrong with this team than "Fire the coach!"
Yeah, I almost want that Tyreke trade to Sacramento for Rondo as much as the younger players. And I'm not a huge Rondo fan, but this team has flaws in it's mental mix as much as its talent mix.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 7:58 am
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:16 am to TigerinATL
This is what? Gentry's 11th losing season out of 13 tries? He's currently on pace to take a team that was 8 games above 500 last year to 26-56 a year later. If he didn't have such a sketchy track record as a head coach, maybe I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Also, with how frustrated he gets during and after games it really appears like Gentry wants to win, but just does not know how with this group.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:18 am to TigerinATL
Maybe one good thing is that, by now, this shite show has to have gotten the attention of Loomis, the Benson(s) (at least Gayle and the part of Tom that's still with it), and Lauscha. If they actually are listening to Dumars, I'm hoping he's capable of giving some sensible general advice rather than jockeying for the GM position.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:25 am to TigerinATL
Rotoworld is becoming suspicious too:
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Cole does bring energy and toughness, but it's odd that coach Alvin Gentry is giving him so many minutes because he isn't playing that well at all. Cole is shooting just 32.7 percent from the field over his last five games, yet he played more minutes than Eric Gordon (27) and Jrue Holiday (26).
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:29 am to NOFOX
Bad coach combined with a pussy superstar equals a bunch of losses
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:30 am to NOFOX
Coach Gentry must've read all of the 'wait til Cole comes back' or 'Cole is better than a replacement level player' posts that we saw earlier in the season.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 8:34 am
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:37 am to TigerinATL
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He throws the players under the bus.
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Alvin Gentry: "We gave up 4 offensive rebounds in the last 4 possessions. (The game's) got to mean something to us. That's the bottom line."
With all due respect, I don't consider this 'throwing players under the bus' at all. Stan Van Gundy says this type of stuff all of the time. If there is a healthy and mutual respect between the coach and players, statements like this are just water under the bridge.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:41 am to VOR
He's a shitty coach. Any rational person knew it before the season that he was, and he's just confirmed it again and again.
Dude is a bum. That's not to say this roster isn't bad too. We need to fire Dell and blow it up. Rebuild the roster. When we can fire Gentry in a year or two, make an actual intelligent hire.
Dude is a bum. That's not to say this roster isn't bad too. We need to fire Dell and blow it up. Rebuild the roster. When we can fire Gentry in a year or two, make an actual intelligent hire.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:42 am to TigerinATL
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And I'm not sure I've ever heard a coach call out the players with this much regularity
Seems like Byron Scott is doing that alot this year in LA.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:42 am to LSU Piston
This was said last night, after the Pistons lost pretty bad to the Spurs. Before this loss, the Pistons won 3 in a row.
Detroit Free Press, post game
Detroit Free Press, post game
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“We got nothing from our starters at the start of the second half,” he said.
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He ripped his players’ willingness to play hard with a sense of the purpose for the full 48 minutes. Tony Parker, looking nothing like his 33 years, playfully schooled Reggie Jackson, scoring 14 of his game-high 31 points in that quarter. Van Gundy didn’t hold back his ire afterwards, saying that four of those shots Parker took during that sequence were “pretty damn easy shots.”
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