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re: Hypothetical: Pels land a top 3 pick in the lottery. Who do we draft?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:55 pm to Macintosh504
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:55 pm to Macintosh504
In the summer of 2018 you'll have to convince Cousins to resign and AD to agree to the new extension. As fans we can take the long term view and see adding a star in 3+ years, but I guarantee AD/DC would be more motivated to resign by proven B players than potential A players that in 2018 would be C level at best.
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:03 pm to Macintosh504
2 proven B players > 1 A potential player and a F player
Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:35 pm to Hamma1122
Ball would be ideal as he can shoot from long range and take pressure off of Holiday as a distributor. That would make us the best defensive backcourt in the league. Fultz will probably be a better offensive option but I think Ball will be the better overall player.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:46 pm to supe12sta12z
Jimmy Butler. Easy choice.
And Htran, I hope your joking with that retarded trade scenario.
Here's something retarded.
I'd swap first rounders with the Knicks for Carmelo, if they take Asik Ajimca and Hill, assuming they are picking around 8 or 9
And Htran, I hope your joking with that retarded trade scenario.
Here's something retarded.
I'd swap first rounders with the Knicks for Carmelo, if they take Asik Ajimca and Hill, assuming they are picking around 8 or 9
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:02 pm to TeddyPadillac
What are the percentages for the #3 pick?? If we get into the lotto?
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:13 pm to TigerinATL
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In the summer of 2018 you'll have to convince Cousins to resign.
Is there even a slight chance he doesn't resign? Sacramento trading him cost him $30 million. Failing to resign with the Pels would cost him another $40 million. No way he leaves that on the table after losing $30 mil.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:22 pm to TigrrrDad
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Is there even a slight chance he doesn't resign?
Yes, the Lakers FO got fired last week supposedly because they failed to trade for him. Paul George's agent told teams he was going to the Lakers if it doesn't work out in Indy, so I expect the Lakers to come after Cousins.
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Failing to resign with the Pels would cost him another $40 million.
A lot of the money difference is in the extra year which most stars assume they'll end up getting anyway. The main difference really is 8% raises vs. 5% raises. Cousins could make that up in endorsements in a market like LA with no trouble. That's why they created the new extension we'll use on AD, to make it easier for teams to keep their star players.
I do think Cousins will want to stay, but you have to improve the team from where it is now. Adding a rookie next year doesn't help much because most rookies are bad.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:27 pm to TigerinATL
It isn't even a question. They will not be adding a rookie 1st rounder. It will either go to the Kings or someone else.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:41 pm to TigerinATL
Now I remember you saying earlier us getting butler for a top 3 pick. That I can agree with. Not fricking Barton and chandler.
And I can tell you now those top 3 players aren't going to be a bust. Especially ball and fultz
And I can tell you now those top 3 players aren't going to be a bust. Especially ball and fultz
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:43 pm to TigerinATL
Can the lakers even afford George and Cousins if they wanted to go there. They spent a lot of money on Deng and Mozgov last offseason
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:17 pm to Pelicans8
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In the event we keep our pick, Demps will most likely trade it. Whether you think that's the right/wrong move is up for debate, but his history with draft picks suggest that it will be traded.
Spot-on. IMO, in this hypothetical scenario this would be the right move. We need a player who can help us win now, not two or three years from now after Cousins leaves and AD's contract has a year remaining and he wants out --- that is if there's even still a franchise in New Orleans by that point.
Very few rookies are needle-movers their first year in the league.
Just look at Hield... He played four years in college and was our biggest liability on the court this season before he was traded (based on +/- ratings).
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:25 pm to Macintosh504
Jay Williams was one of the most sure fire pro prospects I had ever seen. He was CP3 with a better stroke
One motorcycle accident and poof, he was a bust. Don't ever guarantee prospects will be stars. Especially multiple guys. When was the last time the top three guys in a draft became studs? Heck, top 2??
These guys who look like sure fire stars; A few end up disappointing big time. Remember when the 2014 draft was supposed to be one of the greatest of all time?
One motorcycle accident and poof, he was a bust. Don't ever guarantee prospects will be stars. Especially multiple guys. When was the last time the top three guys in a draft became studs? Heck, top 2??
These guys who look like sure fire stars; A few end up disappointing big time. Remember when the 2014 draft was supposed to be one of the greatest of all time?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:43 pm to Crewz
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Remember when the 2014 draft was supposed to be one of the greatest of all time?
I remember when Stromile Swift and Tyrus Thomas were supposed to be the guy AD is today. Neither ever developed into anything more than average rotation guys.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:54 pm to Number 31
Thomas was never suppose to be what AD is today. He's too undersized. I'm guessing you heard that from lsu fans
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:02 pm to Macintosh504
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Thomas was never suppose to be what AD is today. He's too undersized. I'm guessing you heard that from lsu fans
No. I was going by where he was drafted and the reasoning behind his being taken so highly.
Eta: Thomas is 6'10" and was an elite shot blocker. He was almost exactly the same size as AD when each was drafted. Maybe you're confusing him with Tasmin Mitchell or someone else.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:11 pm to DeionDeion
Lonzo Ball is the most impressive college guard I've seen in a very long time.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:12 pm to Number 31
I don't think anyone including our fans ever expected Davis to be as good as he is offensively as he's is today based on what he shown in college. The scary part here is that he is still super young and still has a lot of room to develop and improve his game. His ceiling is insane.
I don't think anyone could even imagine Swift or Thomas to be what AD is because NO ONE expected Davis to be so good offensively at this age.
I don't think anyone could even imagine Swift or Thomas to be what AD is because NO ONE expected Davis to be so good offensively at this age.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:24 pm to supe12sta12z
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I don't think anyone could even imagine Swift or Thomas to be what AD is because NO ONE expected Davis to be so good offensively at this age.
My point was that Davis was expected to become a franchise player, as we're the two I mentioned. Nobody expected Thomas and Swift's ceiling to be 10, 6 and 1.5.
You don't (intentionally) throw a #2 overall pick at marginal starter or slightly above-average reserve.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 11:25 pm to Number 31
Thomas is 6'8. Not 6'10. Don't get your info from wiki
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