re: hope the Pels lose this year: here&#39;s why

Posted by hendersonshands

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:42 pm to LSU Fan 90812

The problem that you haven't addressed is that in order for us to be bad enough for a top-5 pick, we'll have to trade away players for practically nothing in return.

Posted by EarthwormJim

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:42 pm to LSU Fan 90812

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this draft, there are 5-7 all star players there.

No there aren't.

Trying to tank would be the right move if our goal is to give the 6ers 2 top 10 picks.

Posted by eyeran

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:43 pm to LSU Fan 90812

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Where the Pelicans are today sounds exactly like where the Pacers were two years ago, in over
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their heads against Miami with a young star emerging.

oh? really? They were heading into a loaded draft on a team that might not make the playoffs?

or were they a .500 team on a conference that was wide open? whose best player was coming back soon?

this analogy doesn't fricking compute.

Of course it doesn't compute to you because it doesn't fit into the "be a championship contender or tank," bullshite philosophy you're trying to preach thats been a proven model for failure.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:43 pm to eyeran

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Everybody saw the ceiling on that team. You aren't Greg Popovich

LIes and bullshite. I was on this board then.

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This team has far more talent than any Chris Paul team ever had in New Orleans. Paul's greatness carried that team above and beyond its talent level.

really? this team has more talent than David West (all star) Chandler (defensive POY) and the best PG in the league?

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This team has more talent and will be carried by a dominant by man, not a a PG, which in itself raises the chances of truly contending.

because the teams with dominant big men without an all star wing have won so many titles the last ten years.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:45 pm to eyeran

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Of course it doesn't compute to you because it doesn't fit into the "be a championship contender or tank," bullshite philosophy you're trying to preach thats been a proven model for failure.

in most years, for most franchises it would be. but in this year it isn't.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:46 pm to EarthwormJim

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No there aren't.

Trying to tank would be the right move if our goal is to give the 6ers 2 top 10 picks.

as opposed to a top 10 pick and a top 16 pick?

Posted by Solo

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:47 pm to LSU Fan 90812

Karma, can't miss prospects become busts all the time. For the love of everything holy, Oden went above Durant. He was a sure thing, much like Wiggins, Jabari etc. One of these can't miss guys is gonna be a bust, too. You know who isn't a bust? Holiday.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:48 pm to hendersonshands

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The problem that you haven't addressed is that in order for us to be bad enough for a top-5 pick, we'll have to trade away players for practically nothing in return.

or have horrendous luck like say your PF missing the first three weeks of the season with a stupid injury.

and then your franchise missing same amount of time for same.

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Posted by Toula

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:48 pm to LSU Fan 90812

With regards to the 2014 draft, yes, we are fricked.

Teams like Philly, Utah, Pheonix, and Sacramento have been preparing for this tank since end of last season.

Now, if you want to make this same argument for the Knicks, i think you are 100% on point.

Posted by hendersonshands

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:49 pm to LSU Fan 90812

Anderson missed all of that time and we're hovering around .500

Davis will miss probably a month. Once he comes back, we're not going to lose 8/10 games which is what you need for a proper tank job.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:50 pm to Solo

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Karma, can't miss prospects become busts all the time. For the love of everything holy, Oden went above Durant. He was a sure thing, much like Wiggins, Jabari etc. One of these can't miss guys is gonna be a bust, too. You know who isn't a bust? Holiday.

for the love of everything holy, Oden was a GREAT pick. you can't foresee injuries. Oden before he succumbed to injuries was putting up a top 10 PER in the league.

Show me a pick that was supposed to be can't-miss that busted for non-injury.

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Posted by Solo

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:51 pm to LSU Fan 90812

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you can't foresee

Exactly...

ETA: Darko says hello.

This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 12:54 pm

Posted by MrPappagiorgio

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Posted on 12/3/13 at 12:51 pm to LSU Fan 90812

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or have horrendous luck like say your PF missing the first three weeks of the season with a stupid injury.

and then your franchise missing same amount of time for same

oh, so we just continue to hope for injuries to our young developing players

Break a leg tonight, Reke... literally