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re: Hield Work Ethic
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:07 pm to htran90
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:07 pm to htran90
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He is a player who will not play his role in what is best for the team. His BIGGEST asset would be to come off the bench and get the 2nd unit a jolting start and being able to run wild against them.
How do you know this rumors or facts?
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:21 pm to 504ByrdGang
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How do you know this rumors or facts?
Every season he has been here there has been rumblings of issues with Evans. Many of times it is brought to light publicly.
Last year he publicly told the media he basically doesn't really want to play the way Gentry wanted him to play. The 2 seasons before that there was the continual butting of heads between Monty and Evans about how to use him and coming off the bench.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:39 pm to NOLA Bronco
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Every season he has been here there has been rumblings of issues with Evans. Many of times it is brought to light publicly.
Link? He just said his it was harder to get rhythm off the bench. That's not him saying I won't play off the bench.
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Last year he publicly told the media he basically doesn't really want to play the way Gentry wanted him to play.
Link? I remember something like that but he said he needed to play his game. What people seem to forget his last couple of games he started adjusting better and was playing more gentry style. Like I said I'm not one to take rumors from bloggers they get from 3rd hand sources as facts.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:40 pm to 504ByrdGang
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Link?
Google.com
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:44 pm to Fun Bunch
Let's not make this another Reke thread anyway. But in SL Hield should dominate he's probably one of the most skilled players there where SL is a lot of raw, young, unskilled players.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:47 pm to 504ByrdGang
Google is really only a few keystrokes away.
To be clear though, I don't think he is cancerous or anything but he seems to say the right things for a while and then get bull headed or frustrated after time.
When we traded for him he took the idea of being on the bench in stride. As time went on though you kept hearing the reports about the disconnect between him and Monty. The public statements that he felt he was better used starting once he got the nod. Wasnt as big a fan of splaying SF etc.
He just seems to not be as coachable as you would want over the longterm unless it is something he wants to do himself like improve his shooting form. Which makes me hesitant to true things like last season, which I don't think he ever really bought into fully or adjusted enough to be competent in the system.
To be clear though, I don't think he is cancerous or anything but he seems to say the right things for a while and then get bull headed or frustrated after time.
When we traded for him he took the idea of being on the bench in stride. As time went on though you kept hearing the reports about the disconnect between him and Monty. The public statements that he felt he was better used starting once he got the nod. Wasnt as big a fan of splaying SF etc.
He just seems to not be as coachable as you would want over the longterm unless it is something he wants to do himself like improve his shooting form. Which makes me hesitant to true things like last season, which I don't think he ever really bought into fully or adjusted enough to be competent in the system.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:00 pm to 504ByrdGang
quote:Not sure how much they use him. Personally, I am not a big fan of SL as I do not think you learn much about the players. It is glorified street ball with a bunch of players that will never make it to the NBA. The teams do not really run set offenses so it is basically a "chunk-fest" by players hoping to make a name for themselves. I would prefer they not use Buddy too much.
Let's not make this another Reke thread anyway. But in SL Hield should dominate he's probably one of the most skilled players there where SL is a lot of raw, young, unskilled players.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:03 pm to NOLA Bronco
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Google is really only a few keystrokes away.
To be clear though, I don't think he is cancerous or anything but he seems to say the right things for a while and then get bull headed or frustrated after time.
When we traded for him he took the idea of being on the bench in stride. As time went on though you kept hearing the reports about the disconnect between him and Monty. The public statements that he felt he was better used starting once he got the nod. Wasnt as big a fan of splaying SF etc.
He just seems to not be as coachable as you would want over the longterm unless it is something he wants to do himself like improve his shooting form. Which makes me hesitant to true things like last season, which I don't think he ever really bought into fully or adjusted enough to be competent in the system.
Winning I'm sure he'll be cool with coming off the bench. That is what he signed up for when he came here. When you are losing who wants to play off the bench for a losing team. That's when frustration happens. Same thing with last season they were playing Gentry's way they were losing. When he was playing a way that he was asked by Gentry it didn't produce result causing fustration. Do you thing Iggy would be fine playing off the bench behind Barnes on a losing team. He has says many of times he rather start but when you win who cares. Even Jeff Teauge with coach Bud said he didn't like or believe in the system and was hesitant to it when he first came. But they started winning and they bought in. Winning cures all woes and if we are winning I'm sure he'll play the role given
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:06 pm to NOSHAU
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Not sure how much they use him. Personally, I am not a big fan of SL as I do not think you learn much about the players. It is glorified street ball with a bunch of players that will never make it to the NBA. The teams do not really run set offenses so it is basically a "chunk-fest" by players hoping to make a name for themselves. I would prefer they not use Buddy too much.
True but I feel like Lillard who dominated SL he is NBA ready therefore that comp should be fairly easy for him.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:28 pm to 504ByrdGang
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That's when frustration happens. Same thing with last season they were playing Gentry's way they were losing. When he was playing a way that he was asked by Gentry it didn't produce result causing fustration.
If that narrative is true then I don't want Evans on this team. It shows he doesnt have the chest(to quote Les Miles) to deal with adversity and the wherewithal to make it through a tough transition of his game that has been proven to be a winning formula for the team and the players that embrace it.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:32 pm to TigerinATL
It worked on two levels. I got you fam
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:34 pm to NOLA Bronco
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If that narrative is true then I don't want Evans on this team. It shows he doesnt have the chest(to quote Les Miles) to deal with adversity and the wherewithal to make it through a tough transition of his game that has been proven to be a winning formula for the team and the players that embrace it.
Like the entire Cavs squad did this year. Adversity came they all had a shitty attitude and turned aginst each other and the coach. Now they won they couldn't be better friends. This isn't just a Tyreke thing it's a NBA thing.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:07 pm to 504ByrdGang
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Like the entire Cavs squad did this year. Adversity came they all had a shitty attitude and turned aginst each other and the coach. Now they won they couldn't be better friends. This isn't just a Tyreke thing it's a NBA thing.
You really aren't trying to draw that comparison are you lol?
Evans struggling to adapt under two regimes to the best player int he game leading a coup of their coach after being in his system for a year?
When Evans can single handedly take any coach in the league to the finals, maybe he will get a pass to tell coaches that just won a championship to frick off with trying to change his game or preferred role.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:08 pm to NOLA Bronco
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Hield Work Ethic
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Like the entire Cavs squad did this year. Adversity came they all had a shitty attitude and turned aginst each other and the coach. Now they won they couldn't be better friends. This isn't just a Tyreke thing it's a NBA thing.
You really aren't trying to draw that comparison are you lol?
Evans struggling to adapt under two regimes to the best player int he game leading a coup of their coach after being in his system for a year?
When Evans can single handedly take any coach in the league to the finals, maybe he will get a pass to tell coaches that just won a championship to frick off with trying to change his game or preferred role.
Not what I meant but the tread is getting derailed so whatever.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:09 pm to NOLA Bronco
Evans is low IQ knucklehead. Don't waste your time. Evans could take a shite at midcourt, smear it all over the place, roll around in it, and then spell out in shite "lol I won't run any system I just do what I want" and Byrd would still defend this bum.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:48 pm to NOLA Bronco
My work ethic is amazing, by the way.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:59 pm to VOR
And that's why you're so boss af.
Let's just say this though. Hield is putting in work to get reps shooting the 3 ball... That's what I want. Good shooter puts in hours and hours of shooting. No shooter is a great shooter by athleticism alone, it requires a lot of work and if hield is putting in the work I love seeing that.
It doesn't mean he's going to be good, but I know he's doing his damn hardest to try to be and that's all I can ask out of any player on our team.
Let's just say this though. Hield is putting in work to get reps shooting the 3 ball... That's what I want. Good shooter puts in hours and hours of shooting. No shooter is a great shooter by athleticism alone, it requires a lot of work and if hield is putting in the work I love seeing that.
It doesn't mean he's going to be good, but I know he's doing his damn hardest to try to be and that's all I can ask out of any player on our team.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:42 pm to NOLA Bronco
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What is impressive about Hield is that not only does he seem to stand out from the crowd in comparison to his peers but that his effort has produced consistent results.
I agree.
I'm probably more skeptical of him hitting his ceiling than most, but I don't think it's crazy. He's clearly talented and clearly driven. Like many have said, if he tightens up his ball skills, things could get very, very interesting.
I just get antsy whenever the discussion turns to work ethic or effort.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:47 pm to corndeaux
For him to be a truly good player he has to improve his ball handling. Which is why I would like to see him come off the bench his first year. To learn to play on the ball more rather then turning him into JJ with AD and Jrue.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:51 pm to Crewz
I'm calling bullshite on Austin's work ethic. An important part of work ethic is accepting guidance. His hideous shot mechanics growing up around the best coaches tell me he doesn't accept guidance openly.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:56 pm
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