re: Eric Bledsoe's Trade Value

18 minutes in game 1..dude goes 7 for 7 (16 pts), 4 assists and 6 rebounds.

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I ask you, sons, how can you be disappoint with that?

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Not disappointed =/= impressed. I can see Bledsoe being a better fit but I still see him as just an averagish starter, and averagish starting point guards have been found pretty regularly late in the 1st so I don't see much point in burning assets to get him when the window for contention is still several years away.

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Did you take into consideration the talent his playing with vs the talent he'd have playing with us? Would that skew the numbers?

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Yes, I punched that into my formula.

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My ideal draft candidate would then be Anthony Bennett. He can start at the 3, athletic as shite and has range.

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Do not want.

3-4 tweeners tend to have a high bust rate, typically because they aren't fast enough to guard a 3 or big enough to guard a 4.

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Trade GV/Rivers/Lopez and our 1st for Rondo and Boston's 1st. (yeah I'm playing NBA 2k right now)

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That's a non-starter.

Vasquez, Rivers, Lopez, AND switching firsts, meaning a drop of about 10 spots, is a bit much.


That dumps every tradeable asset we have but Anderson in hopes that we can sign a 3 and a 5 worth a shite with our remaining cap room.

Given that the salary cap is likely to come down this year, that will only leave us with probably $14-16 million to fill 7 roster spots, which could come down to $10m to fill 3 roster spots if we draft at #16 and pick up the options on Lance Thomas, Darius Miller, and Brian Roberts.

$10m for 3 roster spots is jack-shite when you're still trying to get a starting 3 and a starting 5.

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Given that the salary cap is likely to come down this year

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This doesn't take away from your main point, but everything I've seen suggests it's going up to around $60 million.

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Going from $10m in space to probably $16m in space may be significant but still not enough to make a play for a huge FA or two due to cap holds for the last three roster spots (roughly $800K a pop) and any players we haven't renounced like Xavier Henry ($3m) or Aminu ($4.5m).

I like Bledsoe but I sure as hell am not giving up Ryan Anderson for him unless he signs a reasonable extension with us (say 4yr/7-8million range), especially if I have to take that Jordan contract and his piss-poor attitude back in return.

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I understand the defensive angle in wanting him, but the extent to which a PG's defense actually changes the team has been really exaggerated imo. How much a team actually NEEDS an awesome defender at PG has been exaggerated as well.

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It might be exaggerated, but it's still valuable.

What is extremely valuable and not exaggerated are his elite steals and blocks numbers--2.5 SPG and 1.3 BPG as a starter this season (Two six steal games as starter)...That's turnovers and fast break opportunities.

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The guy can't shoot

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I disagree. He's improved in all shooting categories and should continue to do so.

45% FG on the season, improvement each season...only 41% as starter--a few terrible nights bringing it down though. He's not a chucker. I think he'll average more PPG with a higher percentage than Vasquez as a starter.

40% 3PT on the season, improvement each season...44% as starter.

80% FT on the season, improvement each season.

...I like Vasquez, but Bledsoe is better at everything but passing with a few elite skills.

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he isn't a distributor.

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I don't know. He went for 5.3 APG as starter playing mostly with Jordan/Griffin/Green/Butler...Griffin missed a few games in that stretch and was replaced by Odom. With Gordon, Davis, and in particular, Anderson, that assist number could very well go up (see Vasquez). Outside of Paul, Rondo, Vasquez, and Holiday, #5-10 average 7.3-7.7 APG.

Vasquez is a better passer than Bledsoe, no doubt, but I think Bledsoe can be solid there.

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and do a slightly better job guarding elite PGs that nobody in the league can actually stop anyway.

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There's not gonna be much lockdown D on good players in the NBA, but that doesn't mean his D won't be much better than others' efforts (especially with all those forced turnovers).

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Its just not worth it to me for Bledsoe to come here and be a minus on offense

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You can't give up too much for him, of course. Only do it if the price is right. He's very valuable though, imo, especially with Dell and Monty clamoring for perimeter D. He's tops in the league there.

...I don't think he's a minus on offense. 15 PPG will put him in the top ten among PGs. He's very capable of that.

He's a better rebounder than Vasquez and will actually be able to initiate a fast break when he grabs one--will make this team more aggressive/faster-paced/more transition oriented which we need with the youth and for Davis and Anderson.

I think he can be similar to Rondo in a lot of ways...not as many assists, but younger, cheaper, and a better shooter.

Bledsoe/Gordon/Anderson/Davis would be awesome for next season (if Gordon can get his shite together).

JMO

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With that said, i'd probably gamble on Bledsoe before I gave any money to Jennings. We know exactly who he is.

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agreed.

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Bledsoe's last 3 games as starter this season:


23 points(9-15 FG), 10 assists, 7 boards, 2 steals, 1 BLK

17 points(7-14 FG), 9 assists, 1 steal, 2 BLK

27 points(9-21 FG), 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 6 steals, 3 BLK

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First: Tiny sample size

Second: Let's see turnovers, as well.