Does a Demps / Thibs pairing make any sense?

Thinking about the same things. However, both Monty and Tom T preach defense, but thibs has proven he can turn a team into an elite defense. Our offense will steadily improve under AD and a healthy roster. Under Williams, I just couldn't see us drastically improving since we haven't in 4 seasons. There would be an immediate improvement with thibs on D and our offense would be similar, which is fine IMO.

honestly he doesn't make a lot of sense for NOLA

perhaps his success in Boston was due to the fact that he only managed the Celtics defense and Doc handled the offense and plays out of timeouts. The Bulls play hard for him and seem to respect him but he really doesnt make things easier for them

Thibs would probably be great in a place like LAC or CLE where he has a ball dominator that shares and makes things easier for their team mates. In Chicago, Rose doesn't really do much for his team mates and that puts a lot of pressure on Thibs to create offensive opportunities. Rose is averaging 6.5 assists/game in the playoffs and 4.9 assists/game in the regular season.

Monty has had a top 10 offense at a slow pace too, but outside of the injury riddled years where they tried to have Luol Deng be their #1 option, Chicago has had productive offenses under Thibs.

ORting/Drtg
11th/1st
5th/2nd
23rd/6th
28th/2nd
11th/11th

If he can turn this into a top 3 defense while maintaining a top 10 offense, does pace/style matter? You don't want your money invested in pieces the coach won't use, but Ryno and Tyreke aren't untradeable. And in theory Thibs would make better use of AD/Asik/Jrue/Cole/Pondexter than most other coaches, so you'd be getting a better return from those investments.

Asik did very well in a face paced houston offense.

Monty was also part of it too imo.

Thibs brings some concerns, I don't think anyone can argue that. However, the biggest difference between Thibs and Monty is that Thibs has always gotten the max out of his players.

Jrue, Tyreke, EG, and Asik have all had much better seasons elsewhere. That's 4 of our top 6 players. Obviously, injury issues have occurred with Jrue and EG, but even before injuries neither were putting up career numbers offensively or defensively. How many times this season did one of us say that more set plays could have been drawn up for EG to get going? Monty had no clue as to how to maximize Asik. He was constantly asked to do what he was incapable of.

I would contend that the post Rose injury rosters in Chicago were very limited. He was who that team was built around, especially offensively, and he has not been available. I can't think of a player who left Chicago and became better. Nor can I think of a player who came to Chicago and became worse. Even an offensive centric guy like Gasol just had a career revival type year under Thibs. Hell, if Gasol doesn't rip his hamstring, the Bulls probably beat the Cavs.

I agree with ATL. Despite his concerns, he is the only coach who instantly raises us a playoff tier. He would have a healthy superstar to build around and our abysmal defense would instantly improve. I think this is all stuff that Demps would be in favor of.

If Dell wants to keep his job, Thibs is the safest choice.

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run guys into the ground

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Then give him plenty of players he'll play. How do you get a capable back up for AD is a good question, but what I proposed the other day, turning Ryno into Deng, spending the MLE on Dunleavy and trading Tyreke for an athletic backup big to spell AD, and you're 9-10 deep with guys Thibs will happily play.

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I think Thibs is great and I would be happy if they got him. But I would hope they make it clear that he can't run guys into the ground and that he has to bring a modern, top notch offensive guy with him.

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Kind of where I am on the issue. I am intrigued by a couple of other possibilities, though.

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you'll change it by getting him enough players he trusts

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I don't know about that. He's been in Chicago long enough to have "his guys."

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"to me, the only way a team can improve is you have to be sharp. The way you execute in this league is through repetition, and that's both offensively and defensively. You're not going to rest your way to success."

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if you have to trade your depth to get a star in the future, get ready to have the remaining starters play big minutes.

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I think this is where a good coaching staff and front office make their money. Create systems and find players that can max out in the role you give them. It's not easy, but it can be done.

ETA: Playoffs are a different story entirely. You have to get their first, of course. But,I agree with those who claim the game has changed in ways that make it more taxing on bodies than in the past.