re: Bucks looking to blow it up...how do the Pels get Middleton?

Yea I'm just saying in general

In our case the expiring we can offer MIL isn't going to bring us anything we want, unless we can swing Henson somehow

If you want Middleton from them they're gonna want holiday, if they even want anything from us at all. They are high AF on KM

Agree with Slo about Asik.

Maybe Jrue, Asik and MIL gets the right to swap picks with us for MCW, Henson, KM?

Dump Evans in the summer and get a PG? PG's are much easier to get than legit 2 way wings.

ETA: add a top 2 or 3 protection to our pick.

I don't think they take on Asik after their Monroe mistake

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Shoulda went for ward with Knight/Henson than a dumb splash play for Monroe.

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They outlined the Bucks situation on one of Woj's first podcasts several weeks back. Basically the good team you saw last year was built by the actual GM Pre Jason Kidd. Nearly every move they've made since then that has blown up in their face are Jason Kidd moves and he needs to fail upwards in a hurry so he can't do anymore damage to the team.

On top of it all not working there, and them wanting to blow it up to improve lotto odds, I think what they are really trying to do is dump Greg's contract now, so they can get another Center under max contract this offseason at $20million per in this deep FA class, rather than wait till Greg likely opts out before 2017-18, and they end up spending $25mm per on a less talented option... While Khris was a great signing for them, the future there is Jabari and Giannis. Khris is totally gettable. Dumping Greg, MCW and moving Khris could get them to below $22mm in salary, $67 million to spend in the offseason. They will throw in Khris purely to hit reset while they can.

Bucks QUICKLY move passed everyone on the race to the bottom with a complete tank, and could finish 4th or 5th from the bottom, and lotto luck aside, immediately be the leader for Kris Dunn's services.

Let's get everything done at once. Danny Ainge's Celtics wants to make some moves, but it doesn't look like Love or Howard are available right now. Few rumors have been floated that they would like Tyreke. Let's give them our Top 3 protected 1st round pick, to take Asik in this deal. *(They send one of their late 1sts to Bucks). They have almost 80 million in free cap next year, they'd commit the $ for a bench center, to play behind whoever they land to pick up our pick and Reke. The pick gives them more ammo to get into the Top 2 in the draft if the lotto balls don't bounce their way. If the Cavs lose this championship, Love will be gone to Boston for a package of Jae Crowder and picks. Jae will be replaced by Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram. MAX Dwight signs too for near $30mm, and they are starting Dwight/Love/Stud Rookie SF/Thomas/Bradley ... Smart/Asik/Olynyk off the bench... and they are still $10 million under the cap.

We pull the trigger on Ryno for Gay, and we creep over the cap for 2016-17, starting Greg/AD23/Gay/Middleton/Jrue ... MCW/Ajinca/QPon/Dante off the bench.

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If you could get a late 1st or young player on a rookie deal for Ryno, would Milwaukee really get better offers than 2 1sts?

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I think some other teams could probably put together a better package. A late first in this draft is not worth much. If we add Middelton to this team, our draft pick probably ends up 12-14. That's not a lot of return for a two-way wing who can shoot locked up long term.

The report said they are looking to trade Monroe and MCW, but that the only player off the table is Giannis, though it would have to be a wow offer to get Parker or Middleton. I don't think a pick outside the top 5 and a late pick in this draft is a wow offer.

You should be banned from the trade machine

The Bucks aren't going to let Middleton and Monroe go just for $33 million in cap space next year and no extra draft picks.
Nice dream though. I like it.

Dell has to be working the phones right now, correct? KM could actually keep him employed.

Seriously though, that deal aside... the Boston/Cavs stuff is VERY realistic this offseason, if not sooner. The kicker is they still get to swap 2017 1sts with Brooklyn if they want. They could be starting Dwight/Love/Simmons/Thomas/Bradley ... and be in the conference finals. Then swap a bottom 5 pick, for a top 5 pick... LOL Celtics are BACK baby, bout to blow UP.