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re: Benson's daughter and grandkids requesting a competency ruling on Tom

Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:46 am to
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Pulling the teams' assets and writing an IOU is not going to hold water, right?


Especially when it looks like the value of the IOU is about 10% of the actual value of the franchise. I think the problem that the trust has is that the growth of the teams is far outpacing any other investment options that could be made with a cash replacement.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:50 am to
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This will not really affect the management of the teams I wouldn't think. They run pretty independantly, and Lauscha/Loomis have ridiculous amounts of power while Tom is still kicking.


Yep, and the kids/grandkids are beneficiaries of the trust, not owners of the team. That's a very big difference. Plus, I doubt management decisions are passed onto the trust until after Tom's death. I think the play they are making to have him declared incompetent is to undo their firing. I don't see how their firing can be undone otherwise. Basically, they'll be the beneficiary of the fund, making money from the team, but not be allowed to work for the team.

We need our board attorneys to review my thoughts, though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:53 am to
I'm an attorney but I've dealt with trusts pretty much never. I really didn't pay attention to that in law school, to be honest.

But from what I've heard, Lauscha will be pretty much "the man" when it comes to running the trust, so in a lot of ways, he will be effectively the owner. That could be completely wrong.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:00 am to
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I'm an attorney but I've dealt with trusts pretty much never. I really didn't pay attention to that in law school, to be honest.

But from what I've heard, Lauscha will be pretty much "the man" when it comes to running the trust, so in a lot of ways, he will be effectively the owner. That could be completely wrong.


I'm an engineer, but I have been dating an attorney for almost 2 years. That has to mean something, right?
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:02 am to
Like I said, I did not pay attention to trusts at all because I knew I would never have anything to do with them, and I haven't.

I just conceded any questions that would be on the bar exam about them.
Posted by Spitting Venom
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:06 am to
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I'm an engineer

What type!?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:26 am to
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What type!?


Mechanical or custodial
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:33 am to
You a janitor baw
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:46 am to
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You a janitor baw


Expect a call from the union attorney.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:32 am to
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GERRY V ?@gvtalk
Bensons primary doctor,caregiver & primary lawyer have been replaced? Is this true?




yea is this true?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:55 pm to
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I'd like to know the full language of the trust rather than the excerpts in the petition.


yeah, I think this will be the only leg they really have to stand on, unless the old man has gone ape shite mad.

If and when the specifics of the trust comes out, please provide your insight.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:43 pm to
PSA

dont go to the saints board
the whole 1st page just about is benson/rita derp
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 5:50 pm to
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quote:
In the absence of Tom, can we get a Ballmer/Cuban type?


Bill Simmons said if he had $1 billion that he'd buy the Pels


Haralabob also said if he had a billion dollars he'd buy the Pels just to fire Monty
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:47 pm to
Anyone catch the news tonight? Had a small interview with the kid's lawyer. He completely tried to play the "they are going to move the teams out of new orleans if the kids don't get it card".

Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:49 pm to
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Anyone catch the news tonight? Had a small interview with the kid's lawyer. He completely tried to play the "they are going to move the teams out of new orleans if the kids don't get it card"




what??
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:02 pm to
On a side note, how the hell did I end up with a stickied thread? Is this real life?
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:55 pm to
Remember that time Tom wanted to move the Saints to San Antonio? Good times
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:00 pm to
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On a side note, how the hell did I end up with a stickied thread? Is this real life?



I R'AD and they listened
Posted by Mudge87
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:18 am to
Still, it just seems really stupid to put an asset as valuable as the Saints/Pelicans franchises into an irrevocable trust, where the guy couldn't change his mind on ownership after the fact.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:34 am to
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I R'AD and they listened



I'm used to getting RA'Ed, but not stickied.
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