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He just had an off game. He will be fine

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Jrue has a lot of off games.

The frustrating thing with him is we see a game where he scores 30, looks unstoppable, is getting his teammates involved as well, and is playing great defense. That Jrue is worth a max contract.
Problem is we get that kind of game once every 10 games. in those 10 games you'll get 4-5 good games, on 3-4 crappy games.

It doesn't help when Solo and Moore play like shite too.
The good thing about having Buddy and Galloway was that they couldn't all be shitty. You'd have a week where Buddy was on fire, then the next week Galloway would be, then Moore. They have no room for shitty games from everyone.

If Jrue wants to make some money on this next contract, then his arse better start playing better. I'd rather give Jrue's money to Teague, or less money to Patty Mills or Shaun Livingston if he is going to continue to be shitty in the same amount of games he's great, with mediocre to average inbetween them.

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Vs. what? You don't have a better answer do you? Until you have a better alternative, how can you be sure that not resigning isn't the best choice to make?

Generally speaking flexibility should be the goal when your choices are bad, but we're on the clock with the 2 superstars on the roster and we don't have the assets to trade for anyone better than Holiday, so the odds of flexibility paying off by next offseason are low. Paul George basically told Boston not to trade for him because it's either Indy or he's signing with the Lakers. So you can't even say keep your money flexible and pray for PG-13.

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Glad you mentioned PG because in the same time frame we have Boogie, PG will more than likely be in his ear to come with him and Russell to LA.

If there is a small opening in the CP3 door you break it open. Otherwise like another poster alluded too, Rubio is a really good pass first PG, and cheaper, and we can get a SG that can shoot a ball with the rest of the cash.

Boogie is not one to push for a move to a big market or to go play with other stars. He was trying to convince AD to go to Sacramento. If you read his latest interview he's already house shopping and he is "all in". He comes off as a really loyal guy.

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Boogie is not one to push for a move to a big market or to go play with other stars. He was trying to convince AD to go to Sacramento. If you read his latest interview he's already house shopping and he is "all in". He comes off as a really loyal guy.

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I can agree with this. He does seem genuine about staying right now and building with AD. We will see with more games and time if the progress continues to improve.

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1. Curry 2. Russ 3. Harden 4. CP3 5. Conley 6. Wall 7. Kyrie 8. Lillard 9. Bledsoe 10. Isaiah Thomas 11. Lowry 12. Kemba 13. Teague 14. Schroder 15. George Hill 16. Jrue

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Hard to argue with this. I'd say with the exceptions of Teague and Schroder, I agree. Jrue's an above average point guard, but he's not elite.

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You mean me? I'm not 100% sign Holiday at all costs, but the goal for the 2017 season should be to give AD and Cousins a team they like enough to resign with. For the past 2 years we've been counting the days until things were bad enough for AD to try and force his way out. It's very possible that in the summer of 2018 you'll get both Boogie and AD to commit to their 3rd contract and another 5 years with the Pelicans. But that won't happen if the team takes a step back

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Then we agree on the underlying issue.

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Then we agree on the underlying issue.

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Probably, but you still need an alternative path to Holiday that is actually as good. Holiday + AD = .500 ball. Holiday + AD + Cousins should be a 50-51 team based on RPM projections. You can't use his worst game of the year to say "See I'm right he's not the right guard" and then just say we shouldn't resign him on principle without an alternative path that also gets you to at least 50 wins.

If this team wins 50 next year I think the odds of resigning AD/DC are pretty good. If Holiday isn't good enough to get you past the top 4 seeds, that's a problem to solve later. Become the 50 win team and get the 5 year commitments from your 2 star players first.

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The quicker people realize its a mistake to give him 25M a year, the quicker we can get someone on the team worth that.

Of course someone is going to link the 20/8 over the last 13 games, but thats just it, this dude is NEVER consistent.

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It's not that simple. People keep thinking about Jrue as a $25M player, but $20M vs $25 isn't really much difference because his cap hold is only $17M this year and any savings will quickly be eaten up by Cousins' new contract the following offseason.


Who are you going to get this offseason that is better than Jrue for $17M?

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You're showing your ignorance, Boogie has said before he doesn't like CP3 and doesn't respect him.

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CP3 and Reddick hated each other as well, much more than CP3 and Cousins do, and they are best friends now.

They aren't 12 year old girls.

I love how everyone assumes the Pels are just going to get some other young great player to come to NOLA so easily.

Also these PG list y'all are making are flawed due to the way the guard position has changed. It needs to be a list of all guards.

Since half of the guys on the list are combo guards that are both PGs and SGs. The "SG" list is non existent when removing the guys put into the list in this thread. Then you have the guys who are basically a forward/guard tweener.

So when it comes to the NBA you need about 8 competent players truly in your rotation for the playoffs. You need roughly three All-Stars and at least one being a super star.

The Pels have better than that with Davis-Cousins-Holiday. A limited number of teams have that type of top end talent. The only team to win without the superstar model in recent history are the Pistons.