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Posted on 1/19/17 at 7:17 pm to kingbob
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Red Dirt is to Nashville as a real hamburger is to McDonald's.
I feel like red dirt is pretty manufactured these days. It jumped the shark when they started calling it red dirt. I blame Pat Green.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 8:53 pm to Theboot32
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Don't think you can leave Pat Green out this either
Live at Dancehall Dreamer and the live at Billy Bob's album are his best.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:06 pm to Zappas Stache
Texas Music is what we call it. The term "Red Dirt" was started when bands like Cross Canadian Ragweed and The Great Divide invaded Texas. They were called "Red Dirt" because they were from Oklahoma. The two "types" are basically the same and are rooted in Willie, Waylon, Merle, Jerry Jeff Walker, Michael Martin Murphy, Gary P. Nunn, Ray Wylie Hubbard and Johnny Bush. It could be claimed that the roots actually go back to Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys. Middle pioneers would be Robert Earl Keen, Lyle Lovett, Bruce and Charlie Robison, Larry Joe Taylor, Radney Foster, Rodney Crowell, Steve Earl, Pat Geeen and Cory Morrow. There are many more I failed to name.
One common denominator is a man named Lloyd Maines, Natalie Maines' father. He has played on and produced many albums for nearly all Texas Music/Red Dirt artists. Even taught many of them how to play their instruments. Lloyd has had as big of an influence on this style of music as anyone.
Many of the songwriters that pioneered and contributed this style are Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Rodney Crowell, and Willie Nelson. These folks have all penned some monster country hits.
Texas and Red Dirt Music is a very wide style and can be anything from Western Swing to Honky Tonk to Texas Dancehall standards to Southen Rock. The common denominator is that it is all shunned by Nashville. Pick the substyle and artists you like and support them!
One common denominator is a man named Lloyd Maines, Natalie Maines' father. He has played on and produced many albums for nearly all Texas Music/Red Dirt artists. Even taught many of them how to play their instruments. Lloyd has had as big of an influence on this style of music as anyone.
Many of the songwriters that pioneered and contributed this style are Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Rodney Crowell, and Willie Nelson. These folks have all penned some monster country hits.
Texas and Red Dirt Music is a very wide style and can be anything from Western Swing to Honky Tonk to Texas Dancehall standards to Southen Rock. The common denominator is that it is all shunned by Nashville. Pick the substyle and artists you like and support them!
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:14 pm to Zappas Stache
Starter Texas/Red Dirt albums that I would recommend are (in no particular order):
Robert Earl Keen - West Textures
Robert Earl Keen - Gringo Honeymoon
Charlie Robison - Life of the Party
Jerry Jeff Walker - Viva Terlingua
Pat Green - Carry On (or Three Days)
Guy Clark - Keepers
Jerry Jeff Walker - Night After Night
Owen Temple - General Store
Cross Canadian Ragweed - Hwy 377 and Purple
The Great Divide - Revolutions
Reckless Kelly - Miligan and Under the Table Above the Sun
Gary P. Nunn - Roadtrip
Willie Nelson - Honeysuckle Rose
Waylon and Willie 1
I'm not as up on the newer artists anymore. My taste has shifted to more modern Southern Rock.
Robert Earl Keen - West Textures
Robert Earl Keen - Gringo Honeymoon
Charlie Robison - Life of the Party
Jerry Jeff Walker - Viva Terlingua
Pat Green - Carry On (or Three Days)
Guy Clark - Keepers
Jerry Jeff Walker - Night After Night
Owen Temple - General Store
Cross Canadian Ragweed - Hwy 377 and Purple
The Great Divide - Revolutions
Reckless Kelly - Miligan and Under the Table Above the Sun
Gary P. Nunn - Roadtrip
Willie Nelson - Honeysuckle Rose
Waylon and Willie 1
I'm not as up on the newer artists anymore. My taste has shifted to more modern Southern Rock.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:28 pm to The Balinese Club
If you've never experienced Carney Man or Guacamole live you can go frick yourself.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:32 pm to offshoreangler
Well, you can actually go frick yourself because I saw Cross Canadian Ragweed perform "Carney Man" live for my first time around 1999.
I saw the Texas Tornados perform "Guacamole" live in 1992, long before Doug Sahm died in 1999 and Freddy Fender passed in 2006. Augie Meyers did the vocals for "Guacamole." He's still around.
But thanks for playing.
I saw the Texas Tornados perform "Guacamole" live in 1992, long before Doug Sahm died in 1999 and Freddy Fender passed in 2006. Augie Meyers did the vocals for "Guacamole." He's still around.
But thanks for playing.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:36 pm to The Balinese Club
That wasn't directed at you...lighten the frick up nerd. You fricking Aggies....
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:39 pm to offshoreangler
No worries. It seemed like you were being an a-hole and I didn't understand why.
I agree, those are both excellent songs done live. And I love the way Reckless Kelley covers "Guacamole."
I agree, those are both excellent songs done live. And I love the way Reckless Kelley covers "Guacamole."
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:52 pm to MikeHoncho47
Was introduced to the genre in 2005ish by a friend whose college aged brother showed cross canadian ragweed to. Been hooked ever since. Over the last 3-4 years I have been addicted to discovering old old songs for my first time. Most recently "best of all possible worlds" by kris kristofferson
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:10 pm to MikeHoncho47
After the obligatory "outlaws" (Willie/Waylon), Start with Jerry Jeff, Gary P. Nunn, Rodney Crowell, move on to REK, Bruce/Charlie Robison, then to early Pat Green, early Jack Ingram, then CCR, Randy Rodgers Band, Jason Boland, Stoney Larue, Roger Creager, Kevin Fowler, Corey Morrow.
Others you might enjoy Steve Earle, Chris Knight, Lucinda Williams, Son Volt, Old 97's, although I wouldn't put them in that genre.
Others you might enjoy Steve Earle, Chris Knight, Lucinda Williams, Son Volt, Old 97's, although I wouldn't put them in that genre.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:16 pm to MikeHoncho47
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What is it about this style that makes it better?
I find the live albums better than the studio albums. #2 live dinner, the live from billy bobs (CCR, Pat Green, Boland, Stoney Larue) better than the studio albums. Which shows they are not just Nashville label creations that can't perform live.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:48 am to Ric Flair
Pat Green is the artist who got me turned on Texas/Red Dirt music. George's Bar was the first CD I bought of his. Saw him in 2002 and the Georgia Theater in Athens. I was hooked.
Then I got turned on to Cory Morrow, Randy Rogers, REK, Jason Boland so on and so on.
Then I got turned on to Cory Morrow, Randy Rogers, REK, Jason Boland so on and so on.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:51 am to swdawg
Oh and cant forget Cody Jinks
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:02 am to offshoreangler
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If you've never experienced Carney Man or Guacamole live you can go frick yourself.
Oddly enough, Cody Canada actually played Carney Man for the first time, in I don't know how long last weekend.
A few guys I'd suggest listening to, if you aren't super in the know:
Red Shahan
William Clark Green
Koe Wetzel
Texas Renegade
American Aquarium
John Baumann
Flatland Cavalry
Dalton Domino
Parker McCollum
Shane Smith and the Saints
Grady Spencer and the Work
Most of these are more the newer generation of the Texas music scene and not exactly mainstream......yet.
Most of the acts other posters listed are older and are great to listen to, but I prefer live music and get tired of people/acts you have to go and see at gay arse Billy Bob's or a place where you'll have to spend $30 on a ticket and $5 for a beer.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:44 am to Zappas Stache
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I feel like red dirt is pretty manufactured these days. It jumped the shark when they started calling it red dirt. I blame Pat Green.
because he went to nashville
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:51 am to djsdawg
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because he went to nashville
Lol I cringed at almost every Pat Green mention in this thread. The dude used to be awesome, then he went Nashville. He'll never be as big as he was in the scene after that. Same with Eli Young and now Granger Smith.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:16 am to McCaigBro69
Very true. It could be argued that the last "Texas" album for Pat Green was "Wave on Wave." And for Jack Ingram the last "Texas" album was "Hey You." Although I will say that Pat did a good job with "Home."
Pat Green lost me when his style became too "Nashville" because the Pat Green Music that I loved was rooted in his first four albums. I was at the concert in Gruene Hall when he did his first "live" album. We didn't know what we were seeing at the time would become a "gold standard" live Texas album.
I guess these guys go Nashville because they've got bills to pay and need to make some money. Many well established Texas/Red Dirt artists have had some major success in Nashville. But it is a love/hate relationship.
Pat Green lost me when his style became too "Nashville" because the Pat Green Music that I loved was rooted in his first four albums. I was at the concert in Gruene Hall when he did his first "live" album. We didn't know what we were seeing at the time would become a "gold standard" live Texas album.
I guess these guys go Nashville because they've got bills to pay and need to make some money. Many well established Texas/Red Dirt artists have had some major success in Nashville. But it is a love/hate relationship.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 6:22 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:38 am to McCaigBro69
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I cringed at almost every Pat Green mention in this thread. The dude used to be awesome, then he went Nashville.
Agreed, George's Bar is a favorite of mine but I just can't listen to what he started putting out shortly after that. It's hard to fault the guy, he's got to pay his bills. But it sucks.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:22 am to The Balinese Club
I thought wave on wave was his first Nashville hit. I've always hated that song.
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