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Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:38 pm
The 'great solos' thread got me on them.

This was a great, great, great band (well, pair of virtuosos). They also produced ALOT of great shaggin' music.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:16 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:39 pm to
They definitely had some mighty fine moments...
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:41 pm to
Define 'moments'.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22278 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:53 pm to
Songs... I like the Dan...

Definitely came to them a little later in life... late 20's or so... I had no time for this when I was younger, even though my cousin played them a good bit...
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

This was a great, great, great band (well, pair of virtuosos).


Becker and Fagen are geniuses for sure, but it helped that they hired the best studio musicians. All the famous guitar solos and many other memorable instrumental moments are due to other musicians. I don't know how much was improvised on the spot vs. composed, and how exactly Becker and Fagen determined the overall sound; I'd really love to see a "making of" video for their albums.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:15 pm to
There is a 'making of' Aja, I believe, and if I'm not mistaken, Can't Buy a Thrill.

You see how meticulous they are, and how they orchestrate everything. Absolutely everything.

The musicians are VERY important, but they provide little, simply their talent. Fagen does most, with Becker acquiescing or discreping.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:47 pm to
They had many a beautiful song.

If you didn't have Steely Dan at your place in college, you were gay. Plain and simple, necessary. Also, great for some Sundays.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 9:49 pm
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:50 pm to
I had a friend who absolutely didn't believe they were white. I'm pretty sure his comment to me was "Nope, those guys can't be white, white people don't make that kind of music."

I'm pretty sure it was a compliment.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:52 pm to
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I'm pretty sure it was a compliment.
Definitely. It was the epitome of smooth, and it was a 'full' sound. You're referring to Aja.

If Black Cow didn't work it's magic, then, well, um, hang it up. I also was partial to the use of Babylon Sisters from Gaucho (in spite of Hey Nineteen and it's mesmerization and being a great song, this was a cooler song IMO).
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:24 pm to
Kid Charlemagne. What a beautiful song.


Deacon Blues. Wow, memory lane.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Tigerbait46
Member since Dec 2005
8017 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:36 pm to
Peg is my personal fav but I haven't listened to them in a little while. I went on a bit of Steely Dan bender a few years ago.


I'm probably the only 23 year old who listens to them
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:40 pm to
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I'm probably the only 23 year old who listens to them
You get laid alot, in comparison to your cohorts, I'm sure.
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
Member since Jun 2009
907 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

All the famous guitar solos and many other memorable instrumental moments are due to other musicians. I don't know how much was improvised on the spot vs. composed, and how exactly Becker and Fagen determined the overall sound


I seriously don't think Walter Becker had every note of the Kid Charlemagne solo planned out in advance, for example. W.B. is a guitarist himself, so if this was the case, it seems like they wouldn't need any other musicians.

Let's not forget the presence of Michael McDonald as well - a song like Rose Darling wouldn't be the same without him.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:44 pm to
quote:


I seriously don't think Walter Becker had every note of the Kid Charlemagne solo planned out in advance, for example. W.B. is a guitarist himself, so if this was the case, it seems like they wouldn't need any other musicians.

Let's not forget the presence of Michael McDonald as well - a song like Rose Darling wouldn't be the same without him.

All hired guns that you hear. Becker plays rhythm and solos intermittently, but rarely (if ever), when it comes to something classifiable as 'watershed'.
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
Member since Jun 2009
907 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

All hired guns that you hear. Becker plays rhythm and solos intermittently, but rarely (if ever), when it comes to something classifiable as 'watershed'.



Right, they are hired guns. But those hired guns play a big part in my enjoyment of the songs, y'know?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:55 pm to
What I meant to say is, these two are the orchestrators, and Fagen more than Becker. Much more. Their knowledge of music, specifically blues and especially soul, is astounding, and in spite of being great musicians themselves, prefer to orchestrate 'magisterum'.
Posted by redtietiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
91 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:04 am to
quote:

I'm probably the only 23 year old who listens to them


I'm 20 so it's just us two

Posted by beezylsu
Member since Jan 2011
2922 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:30 am to
Just popped in to say "I LOVE THE DAN!"

Aja is a masterpiece. I could also sing you every line off the Cant Buy A Thrill album (not that anyone would want me to)
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 1:07 am to
Do it Again

Love the intro.
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