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re: Pet Sounds is 50 Today!
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:13 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:13 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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It was a factor to an extent plus as you attested with Brian's mental health issues combined with the drugs he took. Apparently, Brian kept changing his mind on the inclusions of tracks regarding potential configurations of the album that never stood as they weren't compatible with his ever-changing visions. The business climate of the situation obviously wasn't conducive to accommodate such actions.
He needed more time and better mental health. I guess it probably would have been best issued as a double album.
His drug use didn't help him. But, it wasn't drug use that caused him to hear voices. He still hears voices to this day, but, he's somehow learned to ignore them. These voices are auditory hallucinations that come from his mental illness. They happen whether or not a person with Schizoaffective disorder uses drugs.
Most people that are mentally ill enough to see or hear hallucinations are probably going to abuse drugs if left untreated.
It took 21st century medicine to make Brian Wilson functional. Back in the 1960s and 1970s, I don't think that the pharmaceuticals and psychiatry were developed enough to help people with Schizo affective disorder.
We could use a currently practicing Psychatrist Medical Doctor with years of experience to chime in this thread and school us on the mental disease affecting Brian Wilson.
This post was edited on 5/22/16 at 10:16 pm
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Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:16 pm to Champagne
Yeah record companies back in the day and even now to an extent were absolutely hostile to prolonged intervals between recorded studio albums. It was not the most ideal situation for Brian during this period.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:19 pm to TFTC
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I was referring to the "AM radio hits" comments, not production style... edit: In regards to production, I'd say Phil Spector was up there, at that time...
I see.
Yes, Brian Wilson himself idolized Phil Spector's work as a record producer. Nobody could cut a hit record like Spector back in the day.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:21 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Yeah record companies back in the day and even now to an extent were absolutely hostile to prolonged intervals between recorded studio albums. It was not the most ideal situation for Brian during this period.
THE Radio format for young people back then were confined to Top 40 hits format.
When did FM radio radically change this format in the USA, was it 1968? Certainly by 1970, FM radio and album oriented FM radio formats had arrived.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:23 pm to Champagne
Spector was a mentally-ill prick who abused various substances but man could he make a record, records that stand the test of time and who's influence still resonates greatly today.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:25 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Yes, he sure turned out to be one sick fricker !
At least Brian Wilson was never a danger to others. The voices in his head sometimes tell him to kill himself or tell him that he's going to be killed soon, but he's got them under control.
At least Brian Wilson was never a danger to others. The voices in his head sometimes tell him to kill himself or tell him that he's going to be killed soon, but he's got them under control.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:26 pm to Champagne
It was around 1967-68, remember when Sgt. Pepper's came out stations did nothing but play the WHOLE album 2-3 days after its release. The Jefferson Airplane albums and The Who Sell Out were tailor-made for the period.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:29 pm to Champagne
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Certainly by 1970, FM radio and album oriented FM radio formats had arrived.
yep... I think it finally overtook AM in the late 70s..
growing up in Baton Rouge, I listened to WLCS (AM 910) in the 70s and I can remember my older cousins telling me FM was where it was at
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:32 pm to Champagne
Phil Spector, George Martin, Brian Wilson and Jimmy Page comprise the Mount Rushmore of Producing.
Posted on 5/22/16 at 10:39 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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It was around 1967-68, remember when Sgt. Pepper's came out stations did nothing but play the WHOLE album 2-3 days after its release. The Jefferson Airplane albums and The Who Sell Out were tailor-made for the period.
I'm just going by what I read. I wasn't hearing radio in 1967.
We know that Sergeant Pepper was released in the Summer of 1967. The AM "Top 40 Hits" radio stations were playing the whole album back then?
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:29 pm to ThePTExperience1969
I don't that Smile would have been a commercial success. It doesn't really have any radio friendly songs on it besides Heroes and Villains. Good Vibrations was already released as a single and would have been about a year old by the time Smile was releases. Plus I don't think Good Vibrations was ever intended to be on Smile.
I do think that Smile would have garnered a huge cult following and would have allowed their transition from bubblegum pop to more serious artists be smoother. I think Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower and Holland would have been received better and they could have remained cool for the rest of the 60s and early 70s.
I do think that Smile would have garnered a huge cult following and would have allowed their transition from bubblegum pop to more serious artists be smoother. I think Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower and Holland would have been received better and they could have remained cool for the rest of the 60s and early 70s.
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