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re: Neil Peart - Maybe the greatest drummer ever?
Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:31 am to Shalimar Sid
Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:31 am to Shalimar Sid
frick, not this shite again. Neil peart is the most overrated drummer in the history of music.
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:52 am to Shalimar Sid
IMO there are no bad drummers...
High school band drummers, high school local band drummers, college band drummers, college local band drummers, touring mid-level band drummers, drummers from as far back as you can remember (30's, 40's, 50's, et. al.) are all very good. Many are great.
Drumming is a natural expression of rhythm in humans. It has been practiced throughout the ages. The more one practices, the better the quality of drumming that is offered & observed by others!
All people have this innate drumming ability.
Neil Peart is a great drummer. But there are and have been many great drummers. To proclaim him the greatest drummer ever is highly subjective. Since there have many great drummers through the ages, why don't you tell us about the criteria on which you base your claim of "Neil Peart - The greatest drummer ever"...
Rather than ask:
Neil Peart in your 2004 example is behind (and in front of) 15-17 drums, 9-11 cymbals and 2-4 other musical attachments. High school, college, touring, other famous bands (think Ringo Starr of the Beatles) didn't have these 30 drumming devices. BTW, they didn't need them. Playing up to 30 devices does not make a person "The greatest drummer ever". Seriously...
Buddy Rich and Sandy Nelson (just to name a few of the past greats) didn't need 30 drumming devices to be "great"...
Sandy Nelson Last 3 min. are emotional and not music...
High school band drummers, high school local band drummers, college band drummers, college local band drummers, touring mid-level band drummers, drummers from as far back as you can remember (30's, 40's, 50's, et. al.) are all very good. Many are great.
Drumming is a natural expression of rhythm in humans. It has been practiced throughout the ages. The more one practices, the better the quality of drumming that is offered & observed by others!
All people have this innate drumming ability.
Neil Peart is a great drummer. But there are and have been many great drummers. To proclaim him the greatest drummer ever is highly subjective. Since there have many great drummers through the ages, why don't you tell us about the criteria on which you base your claim of "Neil Peart - The greatest drummer ever"...
Rather than ask:
quote:
If there is one better please provide your argument.
Neil Peart in your 2004 example is behind (and in front of) 15-17 drums, 9-11 cymbals and 2-4 other musical attachments. High school, college, touring, other famous bands (think Ringo Starr of the Beatles) didn't have these 30 drumming devices. BTW, they didn't need them. Playing up to 30 devices does not make a person "The greatest drummer ever". Seriously...
Buddy Rich and Sandy Nelson (just to name a few of the past greats) didn't need 30 drumming devices to be "great"...
Sandy Nelson Last 3 min. are emotional and not music...
Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:58 am to TheDoc
quote:
not this shite again
Death and taxes... And this. Apparently it's going to be an inescapable fixture on the board, like "The Archies vs The Sex Pistols" (or insert any two bands you prefer) threads
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 7:00 am
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:13 am to TaserTiger
quote:
IMO there are no bad drummers...
Wait what
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:30 am to Kafka
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I prefer Keith Moon, if only because he was never in Rush and hated drum solos
I'd go with that. Not that I hate Rush, there is a lot of their stuff that I like but not enough to listen to them consistently. Neil Peart was not a good enough drummer to make me want to listen to Rush all that often. A drummer is never going to make a band.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:31 am to TheDoc
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Wait what
See the next paragraph in my post. Anybody that is a drummer in all my examples is good (not necessarily great). However, they are not bad!!!
quote:
IMO there are no bad drummers...
What's your question?
Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:09 am to Shalimar Sid
I am a huge Rush fan and have been obsessed with Neil for a long time, but I just can't call him the best ever when you exclude people like:
Gavin Harrison
Gavin Harrison on Letterman's Drum Solo Week
Morgan Agren:
Fredrik Thordendal and Morgan Agren - Sol Niger Within
Tomas Haake:
Meshuggah - Bleed
Zach Hill:
Zach Hill practicing pure speed
Zach Hill (feat. Les Claypool) - Astrological Straits
Igor Cavalera
Igor and Max Cavalera - Refuse/Resist (Max got confused on the first verse)
Joe Tomino
Dub Trio - Cool Out and Coexist
Now, I'm not implying that any of these guys are better than Neil, but arguments can be made. There is just an upper echelon, and a bunch of guys with differing styles in that group. You also have to throw in some of the old funk drummers, Buddy Rich, Carl Palmer, Keith Moon, Tony Royster, Jr., and more I'm sure that I'm forgetting.
Gavin Harrison
Gavin Harrison on Letterman's Drum Solo Week
Morgan Agren:
Fredrik Thordendal and Morgan Agren - Sol Niger Within
Tomas Haake:
Meshuggah - Bleed
Zach Hill:
Zach Hill practicing pure speed
Zach Hill (feat. Les Claypool) - Astrological Straits
Igor Cavalera
Igor and Max Cavalera - Refuse/Resist (Max got confused on the first verse)
Joe Tomino
Dub Trio - Cool Out and Coexist
Now, I'm not implying that any of these guys are better than Neil, but arguments can be made. There is just an upper echelon, and a bunch of guys with differing styles in that group. You also have to throw in some of the old funk drummers, Buddy Rich, Carl Palmer, Keith Moon, Tony Royster, Jr., and more I'm sure that I'm forgetting.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 8:10 am
Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:27 am to Jester
Posted on 4/9/12 at 8:56 am to Jester
Solid posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:10 am to Jester
:inb4dannycarrey
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:18 am to tigerpimpbot
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:inb4dannycarrey
Yup
Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:55 am to Jester
Vinnie Colaiuta ftw
Posted on 4/9/12 at 10:57 am to Jester
I stand by Stewart Copeland. I mean every measure of those old police songs is subtly different. He has a unique sound. His high hat sounds a million different ways. Genius, if not best ever.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 11:02 am to TigerRad
Posted on 4/9/12 at 11:26 am to Jester
quote:
I am a huge Rush fan and have been obsessed with Neil for a long time, but I just can't call him the best ever when you exclude people like
I am a Rush fan, never understood the Peart obsession though I certainly think he is good. Anyone saying he isn't a good at his craft is a f'king idiot though.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 11:34 am
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:58 pm to Shalimar Sid
Vinnie Paul, and because I said so.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 1:00 pm to Outlaw
"It? ain't easy bein' cheesy"...
Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:10 pm to Shalimar Sid
Posted on 4/9/12 at 6:53 pm to GrizzlePickle
I remember this and he is good but.....
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:23 pm to Shalimar Sid
some amazing metal drummers
Vitek from Decapitated he's dead now
Krimh-current Decapitated drummer Krimh is an amzing guitar player, bass player and songwriter as well
Gene Hoglan from lots of bands
Vitek from Decapitated he's dead now
Krimh-current Decapitated drummer Krimh is an amzing guitar player, bass player and songwriter as well
Gene Hoglan from lots of bands
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