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Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:05 pm
as i've mentioned here a few times, i have a couple of pretty nice guitars, but can play a damn thing.
like i'm a complete guitar idiot when it comes to playing.

i really want to learn how to play, but need help.
i probably lack the patience or even understanding of basics to teach myself.

so i'm looking for help and suggestions on how to learn this thing.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:25 pm to
Electric or acoustic?

It's like golf. You must be resigned to knowing you will SUCK for a year or more.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:28 pm to
electric

I have an American Standard Strat and an Epiphone Les Paul Tribute plus (with Gibson '57 PAF pickups)
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:28 pm to
and i am prepared to suck for a long time.
would just like to decrease the amount of suck i display
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:03 pm to
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American Standard Strat s)


Inherit that? Why is that your "starter"? Nice starter. And upgraded pick ups on the other.



I like Justin guitar. Free website and broken down by electric and acoustic. Marty Scwartz is another YouTube guy. He has some older beginner stuff. But he has a paid website he will always try to lead you to. His newer lessons aren't for me. They are more difficult songs and he tears through chord changes too fast. Of course if talking to intermediates now, he should be moving faster.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:28 pm to
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They are more difficult songs and he tears through chord changes too fast. Of course if talking to intermediates now, he should be moving faster.

I'm actually glad to hear that. I've avoided him for a long time because he moves too slow. Sounds like maybe I need to give him another chance.

A guy I like a lot is Shut Up & Play.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Inherit that? Why is that your "starter"? Nice starter. And upgraded pick ups on the other.


I bought it used about a year ago. Sold my original guitar (MIM Standard Strat) to help offset the cost. The '12 American Standard comes stock with Custom Shop Fat 50s pickups.
Olympic White replica of the one Jimi used at Woodstock.

The Les Paul is their 1960 Tribute Plus model. Black Cherry finish (beautiful guitar)
Comes stock with the PAFs, Mahogany body and hard maple cap (not veneer like most epi).
It's pretty much the top end of Epiphone and about as close as you can get to a full blown Gibson without paying Gibson money. In fact some reviews rate it a little better than the lowest end Gibson LPs.

Like this one:
Black Cherry Les Paul - Sweetwater
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3313 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:50 pm to
learning guitar often leaves you feeling like this...



just stick with it tho.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:05 pm to
Try to play a little every day.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:25 pm to
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Try to play a little every day.

I couldn't agree more. Try to get a little better every day. And the flip side is that if you start getting like Herman Munster above, put it down. Many times I have struggled with a passage and it seemed like I would never get it. Sometimes when that happens I'll put the guitar down in frustration but the next day, something has clicked and I'm much improved.
Posted by TigerHemi
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
604 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:56 pm to
Anyone can learn chords. The thing that is most important is the rhythm or strumming. You must be steady in time with a good feel to it. Even the simplest songs will sound good with right groove. Every beginner will focus on chords but go for the groove!!!!
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

bought it used about a year ago. Sold my original guitar (MIM Standard Strat) to help offset the cost. The '12 American Standard comes stock with Custom Shop Fat 50s pickups.
Olympic White replica of the one Jimi used at Woodstock.




You sound like me then. With a bit more scratch. Fixated and shopping on guitars. More time looking for guitars than lessons. I now have an acoustic that I will never be better than and an electric is coming. Agile LP is a couple days away.

Now I need to ONLY search for lessons.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67088 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:03 pm to
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Agile LP is a couple days away.


Please post pics when it comes in
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:02 pm to
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You sound like me then. With a bit more scratch. Fixated and shopping on guitars.


deals are out there if you're just patient and wait for the one you want to come up.

first guitar I ever bought was actually a cheap arse squier strat. black on black with white pickup covers and knobs and a maple fret board.
bought it more for it's appearance to have on a stand on display than anything else.

traded it on a Candle Apple Red MIM Standard Strat i found at Blowout pricing at a small mom and pop music store. Cost me the squier plus a little under $200 for the MIM.

While reading about it, I realized that the right guitars not only hold their values, but can actually increase over the years.

so i knew I wanted an American Strat.
what I didn't know for sure was exactly which one I wanted. I absolutely wanted the identical color scheme to Jimi's Woodstock Strat though.

Found this American Standard at Guitar Center in Lafayette for $750. Sold my MIM for $300. I still consider it a steal since I've yet to find one that cheap any where else. and the color i wanted. And in theory with 2012 being the first year they put the Custom Shop Fat 50s, it may one day be more valuable than it was new.

Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:20 am to
You got a couple of really nice Electrics.I was hoping you had a really awesome acoustic to learn on.

I'm self-taught with a $150 Pawn Shop Acoustic.I got the Bridge worked on so the Strings were lowered on the Fret-Board to make it easier on my fingertips.

That was 15 years ago.

I can't read music.But I'm like Guitar George.I know all the Chords.I know around 100 Songs.And always learning more.

You can do it.I'm sure you can learn on a Strat or Les Paul.

It takes practice.When you start,trying to make Chords seems like something that your fingers can't do.If you fast-forward a year or so,something referred to as "muscle-memory" has those Chord Shapes committed to memory and makes them without effort.

Good luck and have fun.It's something you will look back on as a great decision if you learn to play.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:27 am to
I taught myself to play using books and later YouTube videos so it can be done. I learned more music theory early on which will help tremendously if you ever decide to play another instrument.

Learn a few open chord shapes and practice switching between them. It will be hell at first because you will have to manually place each finger but it gets better over time. Everyone who ever learned a stringed instrument went through this process.

Realize that at one point in his life even Jimmy Page couldn't play a basic open G major chord.

Keep adding to your chord repertoire. Learn new strumming patterns and picking techniques like finger picking, palm muting, arpeggios, etc.

At some point you'll want to switch from playing rhythm to lead.

Learn scales (and later modes) and practice slurs (hammer ons, pulloffs, bends, slides, etc)

It's easy to get stuck in a rut of only playing what you're good at but one doesn't improve that way. For years I've sucked at pinky hammer ons so I avoided them which just exacerbates the problem.

The key to mastering something is to always be learning and to focus on your weaknesses.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:42 am to
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Please post pics when it comes in



I suck at pics. But will give it a try.

Also always worried I secretly know some of you. And a Facebook image would meet a TD image. WORLDS ARE COLLIDING!!!
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3313 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Agile LP is a couple days away.


I have an Agile al-3010se. It's a really nice guitar. The finish is flawless. I thought I may want to switch the pickups, but I actually like their tone.

Enjoy

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:18 pm to
Cool. Mine already had pick ups changed.

I assume spending $200 on pick ups, they must be better than stock on a $300 guitar ?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:49 pm to

this is my American Standard when i was checking it out at Guitar Center.
Acting like i knew what i was doing, but really just fretting strings down the neck to make sure it played and sounded right (to my completely untrained ears).

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