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re: Down's show at Civic canceled after Anselmo's racist remarks
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:10 pm to Brosef Stalin
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:10 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Why is that allowed if they are so worried about offending people?
because they aren't advocating for white power?
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:24 pm to monsterballads
So you're admitting its ok to offend some people but not others?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:43 pm to Brosef Stalin
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its hypocritical of them.
precisely my point. They don't like what Anselmo said/did, so they are cancelling the show. That is their right, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do. They are saying "You can only play here if we agree with your thinking and philosophy." That's a craptastic move. frick Anselmo and his racist bullshite, and frick the Civic for their litmus test to perform on their stage.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:46 pm to Brosef Stalin
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So you're admitting its ok to offend some people but not others?
if they thought ghost or slayer would affect their bottom line in a negative way, they would not have them in their venue.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:48 pm to Midget Death Squad
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the Civic for their litmus test to perform on their stage.
do you think the civic wants to be seen as a venue who is seen as a place that supports racist views?
some band putting up upside down crosses =/= someone yelling white power from the stage.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:55 pm to monsterballads
Then all they care about is money and not who's offended by the bands
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:02 pm to Brosef Stalin
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I've never heard Phil advocate genocide.
Look, I'd say it's obvious the guy isn't an actual Nazi. Having said that, he did throw a Nazi salute in public. I don't know what else to add to that to make it seem like the venue was acting reasonably and rationally in their own self interest.
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Slayer had giant upsidedown crosses hanging from the ceiling and King Diamond had a giant, light up pentagram for a background. Not to mention Slayer's numerous anti Christian songs and Ghost's pro Satan songs. Why is that allowed if they are so worried about offending people?
You'd have to ask them. Perhaps it's because most people know (at least with Slayer) that it's pure theatrics?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
could be as simple as it under selling so far, or them being annoyed by something else related to the booking and a conduct incident being a cheap easy out?
its not like this is anything new from him
its not like this is anything new from him
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:51 pm to NoSaint
It certainly could be anything like that.
I've never known him to throw Nazi salutes before, but I've been out of the loop. I actually got in trouble with my daughter the other day for blasting the end of fricking Hostile in the car with my grandson over and over.
I've never known him to throw Nazi salutes before, but I've been out of the loop. I actually got in trouble with my daughter the other day for blasting the end of fricking Hostile in the car with my grandson over and over.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
Vocally?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:31 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Then all they care about is money and not who's offended by the bands
so screaming racist things while nazi saluting and yelling "white power" is on the same level as slayer's stage show or ghosts' satanic message?
you cannot be serious
Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:22 pm to monsterballads
How does Phil even have a voice after yelling all these years?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:50 am to Marciano1
I'm still curious how Phil got onstage at Dimebash. I thought Vinnie hated him? Anybody know the story?
Maybe now Pepper will leave and make another COC album.
Maybe now Pepper will leave and make another COC album.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:27 am to RabidTiger
Vinnie's not involved in Dimebash. Phil is on good terms with Dime's girlfriend and really everyone except Vinnie.
Pepper and COC are currently writing and should begin recording a new album soon.
Pepper and COC are currently writing and should begin recording a new album soon.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:38 am to Midget Death Squad
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Can't and Should are two different things. I am well aware of their ability to do what they want, but that doesn't make it right.
So the civic should have no standards at all as to what they want to host and not host?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:40 am to Midget Death Squad
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They are saying "You can only play here if we agree with your thinking and philosophy." That's a craptastic move.
No that's called owning a business
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
Is their position really going to impact whether people choose to attend future shows at their venue (even if they chose to let the show go on)? probably not.. or at least not enough to really notice..
They are either generally offended or they're posturing (I'm of the opinion its a bit of both)... either way, it will be forgotten very soon by the masses..
They are either generally offended or they're posturing (I'm of the opinion its a bit of both)... either way, it will be forgotten very soon by the masses..
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 12:17 pm to TFTC
Phil being Phil, not even really a story to me. Hopefully Down with Phil contour to put out albums because they are badass.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:30 pm to sicboy
If he would have said eff Jesus he would have been welcomed with open arms like tool.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:50 pm to Tiger Ryno
So this all went over your head pretty easily.
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