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re: Do you think rock bands will ever make a resurgence?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:38 am to RockAndRollDetective
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:38 am to RockAndRollDetective
Some rock stations have been converting to all rock, not just classic or modern. 98.1 mixes in some 90s bands and 105.1 plays some 70s and 80s stuff. Its not an even mix but its something.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:58 am to RockAndRollDetective
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the classic rock format has always refused to integrate new music into the playlist
I fricking wish. The last thing I want to hear on a goddamn classic rock station is Nirvana and RHCP. I like them, don't get me wrong, but it's like taking a swig of vodka when you think it's water.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:19 am to Brosef Stalin
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98.1 mixes in some 90s bands
Dude, 90's is considered "classic rock" now. Just think back 10 years ago. 98.1 was playing lots of 80's rock...
That being said, it is interesting how rock has taken a back seat in popular culture. It's still insanely popular, but not nearly as much as it was in the 80's and 90's.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:21 am to Brosef Stalin
Eagle 98.1 is light years better than 95.7 in NOLA. About 60% of the songs the play are lame 80s big haired band songs and everytime I go to 95.7 is always 60s - 70s Rock.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:55 am to Macintosh504
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Eagle 98.1 is light years better than 95.7 in NOLA.
I've never clearly picked that one up but honestly I can't imagine 98.1 being light years better than anything. Like even a root canal. They play the same old tired arse songs over and over, they have THE MOST annoying commercials on the whole dial (which just go on and on), the DJs are dorks, Walton and Johnson are full-on idiots, they JUST HAD to bring Richard Condon's irritating arse into it, etc.
If you're just talking music selection it still seems unfathomable but 98.1 is just pure torture to me all the way around.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:59 am to RockAndRollDetective
I'd rather listen to the same led Zeppelin songs over and over than twisted sister and cheap trick
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:16 am to PrideofTheSEC
Everything is "on demand" now, so I don't know how much radio airplay is even a consequence of anything, other than niche stations' advertising revenue. It certainly has no impact on most "artists'" careers.
Most damning, is that image has become everything. Outside of a very few areas that have, sort of, kept the tradition alive - there just aren't the legions of kids annoying their parents with the neighborhood garage band rehearsals. Without that critical mass of musicians from which to pluck the next generation of something approaching sincere young rock bands, it has died and will remain dead as a musical genre - a historical fact, rather than a living, breathing form of popular music.
The media companies decide who gets exposure and who doesn't - that's much easier now than 30 - 40 years ago, because with the rise of autotune, ProTools, corporate run songwriting banks, talent is completely optional (probably a detriment) to success in the field.
Hip-hop, Bro-Country and teenie pop have been the dominant forms of popular music since rock's last swoon in the mid-to-late 90s.
Most damning, is that image has become everything. Outside of a very few areas that have, sort of, kept the tradition alive - there just aren't the legions of kids annoying their parents with the neighborhood garage band rehearsals. Without that critical mass of musicians from which to pluck the next generation of something approaching sincere young rock bands, it has died and will remain dead as a musical genre - a historical fact, rather than a living, breathing form of popular music.
The media companies decide who gets exposure and who doesn't - that's much easier now than 30 - 40 years ago, because with the rise of autotune, ProTools, corporate run songwriting banks, talent is completely optional (probably a detriment) to success in the field.
Hip-hop, Bro-Country and teenie pop have been the dominant forms of popular music since rock's last swoon in the mid-to-late 90s.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:22 am to Ace Midnight
You just made me sad, Ace.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:23 am to Cracker
I was referring to what was still on the radio, even bands like them are not. Also I know there are classic rock stations I listen 98.1 all the time. I am just referring to how new stuff is never on the mainstream radio anymore.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:25 am to HempHead
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You just made me sad, Ace.
Sorry, man. I'm just calling them like I see them.
I mean, all rock fans should support Aaron O'Keefe's efforts - who is at least trying with the students he educates. But, a few dozen kids just isn't enough. Exposure is great. But getting the work done is a huge undertaking.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:48 am to Ace Midnight
Rock is dead, they say
Long live Rock!
Long live Rock!
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:52 am to FightinTigersDammit
Rock and roll ain't noise pollution
Rock and roll ain't gonna die
Rock and roll ain't noise pollution
Rock and roll it will survive
Rock and roll ain't gonna die
Rock and roll ain't noise pollution
Rock and roll it will survive
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:25 pm to HempHead
Just go listen to the souls, they are everything that rock and roll should be not this 90s rock jumpsuit
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:53 pm to kingbob
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Pop culture started shifting away from rock in the 90s and outright abandoned it 10 years ago. The radio doesn't even play it anymore. There's a whole generation of kids growing up righ now who aren't hearing rock made in the last 20 years on their radio. Rock is old people music, like smooth jazz or music that utilizes actual instruments. Most indie bands don't really "rock" per se as they all have this kinda groovy feel with no bite or crunch. The only music giving kids that 10' tall bullet-proof badass feeling is hil-hop. The only music that even sorta sounds like rock that's in the mainstream is nashville pop country :yak:
this
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:02 pm to OU812
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Rock bands/music died in 1992.
I wouldn't say died.. You have bands like the Smashing Pumpkins which were certainly as "rock" as it gets.
Things started going downhill about that time though.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:03 pm to Ace Midnight
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Most damning, is that image has become everything. Outside of a very few areas that have, sort of, kept the tradition alive - there just aren't the legions of kids annoying their parents with the neighborhood garage band rehearsals. Without that critical mass of musicians from which to pluck the next generation of something approaching sincere young rock bands, it has died and will remain dead as a musical genre - a historical fact, rather than a living, breathing form of popular music.
The media companies decide who gets exposure and who doesn't - that's much easier now than 30 - 40 years ago, because with the rise of autotune, ProTools, corporate run songwriting banks, talent is completely optional (probably a detriment) to success in the field.
Hip-hop, Bro-Country and teenie pop have been the dominant forms of popular music since rock's last swoon in the mid-to-late 90s.
I agree with you. The only counterpoint I'll submit is that one could argue that in the 70's and 80's when the pop airwaves were dominated by white male singer/songwriters, that really was a forced taste on large swaths of the audience that didn't really prefer it. IOW, the dominant stuff you're seeing now always had a much bigger audience than we actually realized at the time. I saw a recent article about this that I'll try to track down.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:08 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I saw a recent article about this that I'll try to track down.
Please do. Not enough good objective journalism on musicology.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:14 pm to PrideofTheSEC
Tons of good rock bands still out there putting out good music. I hope rock doesn't become mainstream again because that is what got the scene so overexposed and watered down.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:02 pm to PrideofTheSEC
I got my 11 year old an MP3 player for Christmas this year and loaded a ton of music from all the different genres I like. Everything from 70's pop, to 90's grunge, 60's, 80's, whatever...
he has a habit of finding one song and listening to the it then the set list plays alphabetically
he told me last night..
"oh my god Dad, my new favorite songs are: ELO "Its Magic", Elvis "Suspicious Minds", "Enter Sandman" by Metallica, Van Halen "Eruption" and Everclear "Everything to Everyone" !!
I was very happy, now I have to get him to shuffle the list up some,
he has a habit of finding one song and listening to the it then the set list plays alphabetically
he told me last night..
"oh my god Dad, my new favorite songs are: ELO "Its Magic", Elvis "Suspicious Minds", "Enter Sandman" by Metallica, Van Halen "Eruption" and Everclear "Everything to Everyone" !!
I was very happy, now I have to get him to shuffle the list up some,
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 3:10 pm to PrideofTheSEC
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s Linkin Park,red hot chili peppers, blink 182, matchbox twenty, third eye blind, sugar ray,etc. I remember their songs actually being played on the "pop/top chart"
Because those were pop acts.
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