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re: Derek and the Dominos. How good were they?

Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:11 am to
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:11 am to
I for one only liked one song from them.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:46 pm to
They "overrated"?

Every thread has to have one.

Beethoven? Meh. He couldn't hold Chopin's pantalones.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:29 pm to
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I recall seeing a documentary about the album and a guy who worked the mixing console was asked about the "live jam" vibe that Clapton wanted for the entire album. This guy had worked with the ABB, so he said something to the effect of: "What I was hearing was fantastic and yet strange. Having worked with the ABB, I was unaccustomed to hearing Duane play even a single note wrong - but this is what Eric wanted it to be - to sound like they just picked up their instruments and jammed. And basically, Eric would play the melody and describe what he wanted to do, and then that's what they did, just jam."



That man was legendary, producer/engineer, Tom Dowd. He also worked with Zeppelin, Skynyrd, Miles Davis, Coltrane and countless others. The documentary in called "The Language of Music" I recommend it for any music lover.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:32 pm to
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Sort of... He was on like 3-4 songs on Layla and never toured with them (as far as I know).



He performed on 11 of the 14 songs. His guitar is one of the reasons that the album is timeless and the album is the reason that any one knows of the band. So, he was very much a part of the band.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:07 pm to
Love, love, love
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:00 pm to
That album is very possibly the best album of all time. It is for sure among my favorites. Duane's contribution to it can't be minimized but I still don't consider him a member of the Dominoes. It was good fortune that ABB were recording right next door. If Eric had chosen a different studio or a different date, it would have been a huge loss for the music world.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:14 pm to
Probably my favorite album of all time.
Clapton at his very best and also in the most creative phase of his career.
Part of what makes this album so great is the story behind the songs and the personal things going on in Clapton's life at the time. That angst & passion comes out in the album big time.

Skydog takes it to that next level. Also worth mentioning, this album wouldn't be the same without Bobby Whitlock's hauntingly good vocals.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:25 pm to
The Dominos were struggling in the studio until Duane came into the mix. He energized the group.

Mutual respect between him and Clapton. Then add Tom Dowd to the mix.....magic! Check out Dowd in this Youtube clip talking about mixing Layla.

LINK
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:58 am to
To OP & anyone else interested: Derek & the Dominos live on Johnny Cash showfirst and only time they were ever videoed.

Derek & the Dominos with Johnny Cash & Carl Perkins- Matchbox

Carl Perkins is on absolute fire for this song but I still think Clapton holds his own respectably.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 1:55 am to
Comfortably better than The Beatles. Which of course isn't really saying much.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:21 am to
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Carl Perkins is on absolute fire for this song but I still think Clapton holds his own respectably.




Saw that clip. They both go fanboy on each other. Perkins does that signature little run up the neck and Clapton shakes his head and laughs sort of. Like he's saying, "that's what I came to see. I'm good now." Perkins stared claptons hands down the whole time he played too. I wonder how many Johnny Cash show fans in 1971 watched and appreciated what they saw? Or did they just grumble "damned long hairs" and go about their evening?
Posted by EastBankTiger
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:23 am to
My favorite version of Bell Bottom Blues...with the late, great Billy Preston on the organ.
LINK
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:16 pm to
So true! They were both fawning over each other's abilities. I also wonder too, if the crowd there was cognizant of the talent playing for them.

1985- Carl Perkins, Eric Clapton & Ringo Starr "Matchbox"

"Mean woman blues"- Carl Perkins & Eric Clapton

These 2 clips are 15 years after that Johnny Cash show that Perkins & Clapton played together on.
It was from a "Carl Perkins & Friends", a great show to watch in its entirety on YouTube. These 2 songs from the show show Clapton in rare form in my opinion, great tone and breathing fire on the lead solos. Definitely worth a watch!
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Beethoven? Meh. He couldn't hold Chopin's pantalones.





Posted by dimet
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:58 am to
The solo's by both DA and EC on "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" are amazing. I've read that Clapton was in the throes of his unrequited love for Patty Harrison and the pain is palpable in his playing. An incredible amalgam of talent in that group!
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:40 pm to
Ok. Bought it on iTunes.

Gonna listen to it all. What else is great in your opinions? Whole damned thing?

Layla, bell bottom, it's too late are all incredible. So everything I've heard to this point.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:09 pm to
That whole album is amazing. I could go into great detail about each track & what's best on them.

Even better than Clapton's live solo on "Crossroads" with Cream that is highly revered, is the multiple solos on "why does love got to be so sad" from the live at Fillmore east album. The most colorful/creative I've ever heard him play in his career. You could tell that playing Duane was rubbing off on him.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:19 pm to
Cream was better
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Jim Gordon was a gnarly drummer who ended up killing his mom and has been in the psych ward since the early 80s.

Couple this with Duane Allman's obviously early passing and titanic amounts of drug abuse by all members and you end up with a pretty tragic band history.


Bad taste. Edited.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:59 pm to
Poor taste. Not funny at all.
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