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re: X-Men: Apocalypse ***SPOILERS*** and Review Thread

Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:29 pm to
I thought it was ok.

Angel seems wasted once again, I'm not even sure why that version of him would even be recruited onto the horsemen
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:23 pm to
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Angel seems wasted once again, I'm not even sure why that version of him would even be recruited onto the horsemen


Yeah, Angel is a super weak choice, and really Psylocke is as well. He just recruited the first mutants he came across. If I were Apocalypse, I would have recruited Jean Grey and Mystique, not the others.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:26 pm to
Angel and psylocke had maybe 10 lines combined.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:49 pm to
The 4 horsemen, aside from Magneto, were pretty weak. I also don't get what's the point of jumping ahead 10 years with these films? It's been 20 years since first class but everyone looks the same.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:13 pm to
so what do they do with magneto now?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:18 pm to
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so what do they do with magneto now?



In my opinion they should have killed him off here. The alternate timeline introduces that possibility. They kind of pulled a Man of Steel at the end where Xavier invites Magneto to teach at his institution, despite the fact he almost certainly murdered hundreds of thousands, if not millions. I don't think you invite the mass murderer to teach your kids and treat him all cool. This would all be corrected if Magneto was simply killed. Magneto rebuilding the mansion just isn't going to cut it as an apology, since Charles could have simply hired a contractor to do it.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:30 pm to
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Quicksilver is retarded fast


He's not even as fast as Flash and can barely go past the speed of sound.

Flash is a thousand times faster than the speed of light.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:34 pm to
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He's not even as fast as Flash and can barely go past the speed of sound.


He did everything he did in less than a second. He was going a lot faster than the speed of sound.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:39 pm to
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He's not even as fast as Flash and can barely go past the speed of sound.



I'm pretty sure he's raping the speed of sound in this movie. The speed of a bullet is 1,700 m/s. The speed of sound is 340.29 m/s. He takes his time redirecting bullets in the last one. I'd imagine the speed of the explosion is close to the speed of sound, so he's much, much faster than it.
Posted by EthanL
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:45 pm to
As I said earlier, Quicksilver is too fast. At least say it costs him something to move that fast. Theoretically he should be able to beat apocalypse to a pulp in half a second, rather than knock him around. It's just for entertainment.

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They kind of pulled a Man of Steel at the end where Xavier invites Magneto to teach at his institution, despite the fact he almost certainly murdered hundreds of thousands, if not millions


I remember when this was the biggest 'stink' from MoS, and how everybody hates this.

But since at least 3 Marvel movies have done the same, it's okay now. (Bucky, Magneto, Hulk)
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:51 pm to
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I'm pretty sure he's raping the speed of sound in this movie.


I know. It's a pretty bad exaggeration and not an accurate portrayal of Quicksilver's speed and he can only go as far as his mutant abilities allow him to do which is still pretty limited.

Flash has basically unlimited speed with no consequences related to real physics. He's the Speed Force and he can run so fast he can literally time travel back to the past or ahead to the future.

That being said, I still really enjoyed the scene where he saved everybody before the mansion blew up.

I'll leave this here too....

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 8:43 am to
Great summer popcorn flick! I enjoyed it more than DoFP because I think I expected more story from DoFP and just lots of fighting (ala BvS) from this one.

I enjoyed the young Cyc, Jean & Nightcrawler (glad they gave Nightcrawler a solid role in this movie) and that Storm is actually African (keeping with the multi-national theme of Claremont's re-tooling).

They did a good job of taking lemons and making lemonade with Apocalypse. The absorbing powers from other mutants thing was a great touch and I like the unique way they made Xavier bald.

The CGI was spot on.

I agree with the consensus though that Mystique leading the XMen at the end felt a bit forced. She works much better as a solo mercenary.

All in all, definitely worth seeing.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:54 am to
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summer popcorn flick!



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Storm is actually African

Yeah, and it's not a big deal to me, but she was supposed to be sort of a local goddess. And not Egyptian. But this is just as good.
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:25 am to
I don't know what movie those RT reviewers saw, but what I saw last night was excellent. It was a solid part 3 for the First Class trilogy. I don't think it was quite as good as Days of Future Past, but it was pretty close and still highly entertaining.

Magneto owned every scene he was in.

The previews made mystique look like the leader, but in the movie it was really well handled.

All and all a very solid film.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:16 am to
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With a 3-day weekend in its corner, X-Men: Apocalypse will only earn $65 million domestically [$78 million across the 4-day Holiday]. That's a disappointing figure when compared to Batman v Superman's $166 million and Captain America: Civil War's $179.1 million, This figure is also way down from Days of Future Past's $110.6 million opening weekend gross.

But all is not lost. The last two X-flicks attributed the bulk of its worldwide box office total to foreign territories. X-Men: First Class earned a "41% domestic/59% international" split on its $353.6 million worldwide total. It's follow up, and Bryan Singer's return to the franchise, Days of Future Past had an even larger divide with a "31% domestic/69% international" division of its $747.8 million worldwide haul.

If Apocalypse is headed for another "30% domestic/ 70% international" split of its revenue and analysts are predicting a $170 million finish for its domestic run, the worldwide box office haul for Apocalypse would come in at roughly $567 million worldwide. Of course, this estimate applies a similar precipitous drop for the film's international totals. It's entirely plausible that the film international box office could account for 80-90% of its worldwide gross.



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Gitesh Pandya ?@GiteshPandya
Given how frontloaded action sequels are, final dom gross of #XMenApocalypse may not even surpass opening wknds of BvS or CivilWar.

Gitesh Pandya ?@GiteshPandya
#XMenApocalypse on track to finish domestic run in area of $170M. #Deadpool grossed more in just its 1st 6 days.



LINK

Yikes!
Posted by Purplehaze44
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:25 am to
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Yeah, and it's not a big deal to me, but she was supposed to be sort of a local goddess. And not Egyptian. But this is just as good.


She is born in America (mother is African, specifically Kenyan IIRC, father is American. She moves to Cairo at a young age and her parents are killed and becomes a pick pocket. Eventually she runs into Prof X, where he first encounters her but he's busy fighting Shadow King. Eventually she wanders south to central Africa and becomes the goddess of her new people, and then Prof seeks her out to be part of the second gen of X Men. So this is actually kind of close to the comics.

For the movie overall, it had good points and down points. I really think they took Magnetos powers a step too far. I don't think they should have had him wrecking the whole planet. The whole city at the end I would have been okay with, but not the whole planet. And I agree with the general consensus that Mystique at the end with the X Men is dumb.

The only other major gripe I had is with Havoc's death. I'm not mad they killed him in general, even though he was a great character, but the way they did it was stupid, and no one seemed affected by it at all. It was too meh and in a very awkward point in the movie to kill someone. Had Apocalypse actually killed him before they warped away and then blown up the Mansion on his own I think it's a much better plot. And then if you actually had a better character reaction than what he got then I have no qualms whatsoever.

Other than that, overall a good movie.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:38 am to
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She is born in America (mother is African, specifically Kenyan IIRC, father is American. She moves to Cairo at a young age and her parents are killed and becomes a pick pocket. Eventually she runs into Prof X, where he first encounters her but he's busy fighting Shadow King. Eventually she wanders south to central Africa and becomes the goddess of her new people, and then Prof seeks her out to be part of the second gen of X Men. So this is actually kind of close to the comics.

Ah. I stand corrected. Didn't know that.
My Xmen comic collection is heavy on mid 1980s-1993ish, and I don't know much beyond those.

Am I wrong in remembering that in the comics Cyclops is te older brother and Havoc is the younger wild one?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:46 am to
Those numbers are surprising. I would have expected better.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 1:14 pm to
I enjoyed it for a popcorn flick. I couldn't help but say the Colossus line "House blowing up build character" to myself.

Apocalypse was done well, I liked the horsemen, but his ancient horsemen looked bad-arse as well.

Also like Jean's "The third one is always the worst" line. Phoenix force was awesome, and it just wrecked Apocalypse. Amazing. The Wolverine scene (or Weapon X, nice nod to the weapon X head-thingy) was excellent and a good taste of what an R-rated one would do.

The quicksilver scene was really well done. He seems almost unstoppable with that speed. A flash movie could be really good. I remember thinking I wasn't going to like this Quicksilver and he is one of my favorite characters.
(I'm biased though, the early 90's I had an X-men obsession and if the after credits really hint at nathaniel Essex, I'm stoked for that one as well)
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 1:16 pm to
I think this could be the Rotten Tomatoes affect. Also it's too close to Civil War in release and a lot of casual movie goers don't want to see two Superhero movies in one month.

They should have pushed back to June.
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