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re: Worst episode of game of thrones ever?

Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:06 am to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:06 am to
I can't believe someone thinks an episode with Jon and Dany finally mentioning each other, Euron making the most bad arse entrance ever, and Arya deciding to head to Winterfell for a Stark reunion is the worst episode of Thrones
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:21 am to
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Euron making the most bad arse entrance ever,


would have been better if it ends with the Horn of DragonBinder

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Arya deciding to head to Winterfell


would have been better if it was with Nymeria

My biggest issue is with the episode is Cersei gets to correct Tyrion's frickup.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:03 am to
While I agree with the general premise that their love interest has been shoe horned into the show, this scene was far from pointless. The whole point was to humanize the war and show the change effected on two actually fairly well loved characters. Grey Worm is an entirely different person. Missandei has grown. This scene shows that, humanizes the war and brings home the point that the Unsullied are about to face a true test. And, probably, sets up Grey Worm's or Missandei's death.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:12 am to
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LoveThatMoney


Not towards you.

Some of y'all are idiots.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:17 am to
Season five had a couple that were worse. At least this one had a good battle scene.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:21 am to
Makes me think they aren't listening to the story and only care about fricking and killing. "Omg why are they fricking it's not important!"
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:29 am to
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This scene shows that, humanizes the war


Not really. The Ed Sheeran scene humanized the war. Those were actual normal people that literally were taken away from their lives to fight for other people. Grey Worm and Missandei live to serve Dany.

I do think the uncertainty over the status of Grey Worm's equipment made the scene even more awkward. It also was much longer than it should have been. This would be the equivalent of Bronn getting some action. Something we've seen before but it was handled as a side plot in a scene which is appropriate to his character, there wasn't an entirely too long scene dedicated to it.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:42 am to
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I can't believe someone thinks an episode with Jon and Dany finally mentioning each other, Euron making the most bad arse entrance ever, and Arya deciding to head to Winterfell for a Stark reunion is the worst episode of Thrones


Its a growing trend with more of the newcomer crowd. Folks like myself that have been reading the story for 15+ years and now watching the show for 7 appreciate seeing all these conflicts being resolved. Are there faults? Of course. The show has outgrown itself and is bloated with lots of actors/actresses that demand screen time. Throw in HBO's agenda and you've got yourself a hollywood blockbuster type final season. I expected it and so did most others. It is what it is, but i couldn't be happier that this story that's been a part of half my life is going to have a resolution. Don't mind the trendy hipster types that love nitpicking like it's a sundance film.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:44 am to
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Not really. The Ed Sheeran scene humanized the war. Those were actual normal people that literally were taken away from their lives to fight for other people. Grey Worm and Missandei live to serve Dany.



Grey Worm and Missandei were both slaves until Dany rescued them. They had no lives of their own until she came. They have as much vested in the war as anyone else. The war not only affects their lives but also those who are like them.

Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:53 am to
It felt as if this was the last time they were going to see each other. It felt like a goodbye. I didn't mind it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:06 am to
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let's all just be happy that the episode did accomplish killing the Sandsnakes (most of them at least)

by far the most redeeming aspect of the episode

possibly the only truly good part of the episode
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:06 am to
Not you too...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:08 am to
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lol there is so much autism in this thread.

i didn't know the DSM 5 included "reasonable judgment of writing quality" in the factors for autism, but i am admittedly a few editions behind
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:13 am to
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I do think the uncertainty over the status of Grey Worm's equipment made the scene even more awkward. It also was much longer than it should have been. This would be the equivalent of Bronn getting some action. Something we've seen before but it was handled as a side plot in a scene which is appropriate to his character, there wasn't an entirely too long scene dedicated to it.

i think the problem with the show now is that D/D think we care about people that we actually hate

on a larger scale, D/D are writing the show around values/ideas they have built that aren't necessarily part of what made the books great (and gave them the back bone for the greatness early in this show's run). they have a bad case of "writing dialogue and scenes to be super serious" instead of writing good characters who are serious about their goals. the scene with Dany forming her plan was cringeworthy in how over the top it was

if you watched the short bit after the episode, one of D/D talked about how great and interesting the scene was b/c it was all women doing it and if it had been men nobody would care. it's like in order to make the audience jump on board with how great this scene was, they had to add in over-dramatic and over-acted dialogue. in their eyes, THAT is important and not creating deep characters (think Tywin here) who didn't need that orchestrated help
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:14 am to
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the scene with Dany forming her plan was cringeworthy in how over the top it was


"and bend the knee" was such a cringeworthy line

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:17 am to
Dany is completely unlikable at this point. all the over-emotional and pompous aspects of her character early on have merged into the queen of douche. the way Emilia Clark delivers her lines just adds so much pomposity that it's hard for me to take any of her scenes seriously
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:18 am to
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Dany is completely unlikable at this point.


She was unlikeable by episode 6 of season 1.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:57 am to
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"and bend the knee" was such a cringeworthy line



What? Why?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:02 am to
Yeah I don't get it either. There's a power vacuum. You're not going to send a letter to a stranger and rival making them think you're legitimizing their claim.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:03 am to
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What? Why?


Maybe it was the delivery?

Maybe it's because I feel like Dany has no real right to demand that of Jon?

It is a line that make sense coming from Cersei, not Dany. They have built Dany to be his god like Savior to the world, not this dictator.

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