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Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:26 pm to Mikes My Tiger
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Nick Cage can still give an Oscar worthy performance under the right circumstances. He has the talent to do so. Kevin Costner does not.
The fact that Costner was nominated for an Oscar for acting means he's capable of delivering an Oscar-worthy performance.
Costner has two other Oscars and he's also won an Emmy as well as a Golden Globe for his performance in Hatfields & McCoys.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:36 pm to RollTide1987
I love MM, but he's exactly like Costner - he's MM in every damn role.
He was even MM in Dallas Buyers, but he lost a shocking amount of weight that distracted the audience from his very MM acting.
In fact, if we're to compare two similar actors in this thread, Costner and MM are the most alike.
MM landed a few perfect scripts that were tailor made for MM - Mud, Lincoln Lawyer, and Dallas Buyers.
No matter if he's played a dragon slaying American soldier in Britain or if he's playing a psycho pedo serial killer in Killer Joe...he's always consistently MM.
He's just figured out that MM performances are worthy of awards if he's smart about his movie selection.
Costner could accomplish the same thing if he made an effort. Hell, I'll go so far as to say that Costner is the more talented individual because he is a seriously damn good award winning director as well.
He was even MM in Dallas Buyers, but he lost a shocking amount of weight that distracted the audience from his very MM acting.
In fact, if we're to compare two similar actors in this thread, Costner and MM are the most alike.
MM landed a few perfect scripts that were tailor made for MM - Mud, Lincoln Lawyer, and Dallas Buyers.
No matter if he's played a dragon slaying American soldier in Britain or if he's playing a psycho pedo serial killer in Killer Joe...he's always consistently MM.
He's just figured out that MM performances are worthy of awards if he's smart about his movie selection.
Costner could accomplish the same thing if he made an effort. Hell, I'll go so far as to say that Costner is the more talented individual because he is a seriously damn good award winning director as well.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:53 pm to RollTide1987
I didn't consider his TV awards cause I don't know how impressive it is to win Lead Actor in a Miniseries. I don't think that's high on an actor's bucket list.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:08 pm to mizzoukills
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he's MM in every damn role.
Nope. Sorry. To wit:
Lone Star
A Time to Kill
Contact
Amistad
The Wolf of Wall Street
If you say he was the same MM in the roles above (just off the top of my head), then you are saying that he's handicapped by a distinctive timbre to his voice and his looks. You are one of those that say Nicholson, Pacino, DeNiro, Cage, Connery, et al, are the same in each of their roles. That approach leaves us with the no one but the character actors and, maybe, Daniel Day Lewis.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:56 pm to VOR
Are you serious?!!! He was MM in all of those roles?
I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that.
A Time to Kill - MM
Contact - MM
Wolf of WS - fricking MM
Look, brah, I'm not saying he's bad as MM. Hell, MM is fricking brilliant as MM.
But don't act like he changes a lot from role to role. Same guy in every role. He's just figured out how to select the perfect movie for the MM role.
I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that.
A Time to Kill - MM
Contact - MM
Wolf of WS - fricking MM
Look, brah, I'm not saying he's bad as MM. Hell, MM is fricking brilliant as MM.
But don't act like he changes a lot from role to role. Same guy in every role. He's just figured out how to select the perfect movie for the MM role.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:06 pm to Tackle74
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Do not understand the modern hate for it from some.
frick the noble savage myth
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:13 pm to VOR
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because Matthew has far more range and talent.
we've only seen it in the past 8 months or so
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:15 pm to mizzoukills
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He's just figured out how to select the perfect movie for the MM role.
dallas buyers club was that in terms of oscar bait. lose weight and be MM with AIDS and homosexuality as a backdrop?
profit
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:36 pm to Puck82
He's great in A Perfect World and Open Range.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we've only seen it in the past 8 months or so
You haven't seen enough of his movies.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:41 pm to TT9
A Perfect World and Open Range are two of my favorite Costner films along with Field of Dreams, Untouchables, and Postman
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:42 pm to mizzoukills
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Are you serious?
Yes.
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He was MM in all of those roles?
Well, true, he was the actor named MM.
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I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Well, that would certainly establish . . . nothing.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:43 pm to mizzoukills
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I love MM, but he's exactly like Costner - he's MM in every damn role. He was even MM in Dallas Buyers, but he lost a shocking amount of weight that distracted the audience from his very MM acting. In fact, if we're to compare two similar actors in this thread, Costner and MM are the most alike. MM landed a few perfect scripts that were tailor made for MM - Mud, Lincoln Lawyer, and Dallas Buyers. No matter if he's played a dragon slaying American soldier in Britain or if he's playing a psycho pedo serial killer in Killer Joe...he's always consistently MM.
Ummm, no.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we've only seen it in the past 8 months or so
Ummm, no.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:38 am to biglego
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Obviously you have never seen Schindler's List
No bc I dont like depressing movies, and I admit he got a lot of praise for that role and he could be great in it. But every movie I've seem him in, which is 5 or 6, he's been the same.
You didn't even need to respond. Everyone reading your comment about Liam Neeson always playing the same role knew that you've only seen a few of his movies, like Taken, Taken 2, Unknown, The Grey, and a few others--and that you've never seen his magnum opus that is Schindler's List.
Edit: you'd probably be surprised to read this quote about Taken being a deviation from his normal characters:
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Just look at the success of "Taken", for example. I thought it was going to be a straight-to-video release. That is actually one of the reasons I did it, to be honest. I felt like spending three months in Paris, I'd get to do all this physical stuff that no one would think of me for, and that the film would go straight to video. Then it became this big success. I was a tiny bit embarrassed by it, a tiny bit, but then people started sending me action scripts.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:49 am to TIGERSandFROGS
Explain how MM hasn't been MM in every single role?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:50 am to mizzoukills
I can't, because I never said that.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:00 pm to Puck82
How do you not even mention Open Range in the OP ?
Movie is awesome ... and Costner is awesome in it.
Also ... I am not a fan of comparing Tombstone and Wyatt Earp ... both are fine on their own merits.
Movie is awesome ... and Costner is awesome in it.
Also ... I am not a fan of comparing Tombstone and Wyatt Earp ... both are fine on their own merits.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:35 pm to navy
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How do you not even mention Open Range in the OP ?
I loved Open Range. Solid all around. Your statement just reiterates my point. Same deal with Nicholas Cage. The guy's got a niche, and thats what he does.
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Also ... I am not a fan of comparing Tombstone and Wyatt Earp ... both are fine on their own merits.
Thank you. They really don't compare.
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