re: What is the greatest thing to ever happen to music?

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The Rolling Stones > The Beatles

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Help from my Friends
Lucy in the Sky
When I'm sixty four
Here comes the sun
Octopus' Garden
Penny Lane
Baby your a Rich Man
All you need is Love
Never Give me my money
Hello Goodbye


All pop sounding tunes to me. Just not the bubble gum pop you're thinking of.

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There is nothing pop about helter skelter, Shes so heavy, benefit of mr kite or happiness is a warm gun though

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Guess we all have our own conceptions of pop, but it's hard for me to think of a Beatles song (besides Revoltion no. 9) that's not pop

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Well if you judge pop by catchiness then the rolling stones were also pop.

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I think the difference is in the vocalizations. Beatles sound more pop where as nobody would ever accuse Mick Jagger of sounding anything but raw rock and roll. Though they did do that one album.

Though I'll admit to being one who's never gotten the Beatles comparison to post 80s pop music.

I say pop like it's a good thing. The Beatles wrote incredible pop songs. Sure, they had their sonic experimentation, but a lot of their biggest experiments were putting a pop sheen on things more fringe acts were doing. It's no accident Piper at the Gates of Dawn was recorded down the hall from Sgt. Pepper's. Compare those two psychedelic albums and its clear who is shooting for pop (not the Pink Floyd).

But that's the Beatles genius. They could make sitar music popular. They were great amalgomaters. They could turn anything into a pop hit.

The Stones had hooks, to be sure, but they weren't ever going to turn out the pop hooks of the Beatles. But the Beatles cannot rock out like the Stones (though they can rock out). Each band dominates its turf.

I agree 100% but it also kind of irks me when people call The Beatles pop considering that most of the people out there think of pop as Britney Spears and Lady Gaga.


And I wasn't trying to call The Stones pop by any means I was just using them to make a point.


The Beatles were above and beyond anything that anyone had ever seen before them and also any thing that people will ever see after them. It was a perfect storm of a certain set of musicians in a certain time period with a certain fan base. There were better bands and musicians before them and there have been better bands and musicians after them yet no one will ever be able to come close to accomplishing what they did IMO.

If we are going to talk about the most important band in the history of music (not just rock n roll, music in general) then that honor has to go to the beatles.

I can enjoy a 10 minute guitar solo just as easily as a good hook but I get what you're saying and I agree

I agree they branched out but they always kept that beatle vibe or that dylan vibe. They never lost whatever made them great even while changing genres multiple times throughout their career

When Muddy Waters invented electricity.