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Watched "Foxcatcher" last night.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:05 am
Factually inaccurate and boring as hell. Slow dialogue. Channing Tatum and Mark Ruffalo hunched like gorillas. Steve Carell with a nose that grew and receded like Pinocchio's. What a disappointment.
This would have been a much better movie if the producer/director had centered it around the lunatic life of John du Pont instead of the seemingly retarded Mark Schultz (or did they make that up, too?).
I haven't seen the 30 for 30 "Prince of Pennsylvania" but I'm sure it must be better than this.
This would have been a much better movie if the producer/director had centered it around the lunatic life of John du Pont instead of the seemingly retarded Mark Schultz (or did they make that up, too?).
I haven't seen the 30 for 30 "Prince of Pennsylvania" but I'm sure it must be better than this.
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:07 am to Rex
Movie was boring as shite.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:10 am to Rex
Super boring movie and it skips like five years of maddness. After Mark leaves it kinda cuts to right before he kills Dave. But that was a seven year gap. 
If you watch the ESPN 30 on 30 about the incident it's much better and not boring at all.
If you watch the ESPN 30 on 30 about the incident it's much better and not boring at all.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:12 am to Rex
I liked it. Carrell was really good. Tatum walked and talked like a retarded caveman but I didn't mind.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:17 am to Rex
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:23 am to Brosef Stalin
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I liked it. Carrell was really good. Tatum walked and talked like a retarded caveman but I didn't mind.
My thoughts on it as well. It wasn't great, but it was good and I enjoyed it for the most part.
The story itself is fascinating...hard to believe that shite happened IRL.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:53 am to Napoleon
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If you watch the ESPN 30 on 30 about the incident it's much better and not boring at all.
This. 30 for 30 is 100% better than the movie. I think Ruffalo, Tatum, & Carrel did a good job in the movie but the pacing and story was slow and boring. They honestly covered the exact same story, told in the same timeline, but in an hour rather than two. And told by the people who were there rather than actors. After watching the 30 for 30 it made me regret watching the movie.
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Super boring movie and it skips like five years of maddness.
This is so damn true.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:37 pm to scoot25
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but in an hour rather than two. And told by the people who were there rather than actors. After watching the 30 for 30 it made me regret watching the movie.
+1, well worth the time.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:38 pm to Rex
I didn't necessarily like it, but I didn't know the "story". I was sort of on the edge of my seat. At the end, I was very unsettled and on the verge of nauseated.
I definitely wouldn't watch it again, but I didn't regret watching it.
I definitely wouldn't watch it again, but I didn't regret watching it.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:42 pm to scoot25
It didn't break my heart as much as the Man on the Moon pretty much completely missing the point on Andy Kaufman but I agree; I knew too much of the story before hand being a nerd that follows MMA & Kurt Angle and was way overhyped but it was kind of boring esp. compared to the pace of Moneyball.. also, Mark Ruffalo is easily the best actor in that movie; his channeling of Dave was beautifully done.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:53 pm to DirklasDaDirk
I was completely bored during this movie. I agree that it would have been much more interesting to focus on the guy who went crazy. I also wonder if Schulz was portrayed accurately or not, they made him look like a total fool. He couldn't be happy. Weren't there also sexual under-tones, that maybe he did a few things to keep the old loon happy? I can't remember now. I just remember thinking "that was gay."
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:09 pm to CocomoLSU
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My thoughts on it as well. It wasn't great, but it was good and I enjoyed it for the most part.
I loved it. I died laughing when he told him: "we're friends now. You can call me Golden Eagle".
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hard to believe that shite happened IRL.
After I watched it, I couldn't believe that I barely remembered anything at all about the real incident. Boy, if that had happened in the age of Twitter...
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:36 pm to DirklasDaDirk
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as much as the Man on the Moon pretty much completely missing the point on Andy Kaufman
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:01 pm to Rex
The more I look up the true stories behind movies, the less I've come to expect from Hollywood. But in all relativity they weren't that far off. They for sure condensed the timeline, and though Dupont's weirdo advances were documented, Mark strongly denied the scenes of late night wrasslin, hair cutting and such.
That said, the Shultz family was around during filming (those were Dave's glasses Ruffalo was wearing) and watching the 30/30 last night, they nailed some of the visual aspects.
I do agree on the overdone monkey-walk, but the pacing didn't bother me and I thought it had one of the best scores of the year. I also thought Mark's hotel freakout was an extremely powerful scene. He really busted his head during the shot.
I'd recommend watching both versions.
That said, the Shultz family was around during filming (those were Dave's glasses Ruffalo was wearing) and watching the 30/30 last night, they nailed some of the visual aspects.
I do agree on the overdone monkey-walk, but the pacing didn't bother me and I thought it had one of the best scores of the year. I also thought Mark's hotel freakout was an extremely powerful scene. He really busted his head during the shot.
I'd recommend watching both versions.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:26 pm to CocomoLSU
No idea if it's still on youtube; but someone posted a compilation of a whole bunch of CNN footage and other news outlets around the time of the shooting... poor Dave's wife
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:36 pm to Backinthe615
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The more I look up the true stories behind movies, the less I've come to expect from Hollywood. But in all relativity they weren't that far off. They for sure condensed the timeline, and though Dupont's weirdo advances were documented, Mark strongly denied the scenes of late night wrasslin, hair cutting and such.
That said, the Shultz family was around during filming (those were Dave's glasses Ruffalo was wearing) and watching the 30/30 last night, they nailed some of the visual aspects.
I do agree on the overdone monkey-walk, but the pacing didn't bother me and I thought it had one of the best scores of the year. I also thought Mark's hotel freakout was an extremely powerful scene. He really busted his head during the shot.
I'd recommend watching both versions.
Well the "BASED" on a true story is there in writing for a reason.. even the MMA storyline part at the end was like 98% inaccurate (Mark did fight in the UFC once, loved it, but BYU where he was coaching asked him to stop).. Kurt Angle was on set too; I believe he was at Foxcatcher a few months before the shooting..
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:41 pm to DirklasDaDirk
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Tatum walked and talked like a retarded caveman but I didn't mind.
How is this different than any other movie he has done?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:46 pm to TigerTale22
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Tatum walked and talked like a retarded caveman but I didn't mind.
How is this different than any other movie he has done?
I'm so afraid of what Tatum's version of Gambit will be.. I'm thinking he will have a very "guy from Evangeline Parish that can't keep a job for more than 10 days" vibe
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:50 pm to DirklasDaDirk
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BASED
Well, yeah, that's why I check stuff out after films. My point is that already great and true stories tend to get altered in head-scratching, unecessary ways - and a lot of people take it as gospel and don't look the real stories up. Notsomuch a big deal here, which is why I said "in all relativity."
Posted on 10/21/15 at 3:56 pm to Backinthe615
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My point is that already great and true stories tend to get altered in head-scratching, unecessary ways -
lawsuits.. Hollywood doesn't make things accurate until everyone involved is long dead (ie Lincoln or the Jungle Book).
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 3:57 pm
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