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Posted on 7/7/09 at 10:58 am to
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 10:58 am to
I also got suckered in by the wife into reading the book and watching the movie.
The movie was exactly what I expected but it wasn't bad. It was reasonably entertaining.
I have to admit I enjoyed the first book and am currently reading the second. I am anticipating getting tired of the obsession thing too, but that hasn't happened yet.
For me, I am fascinated by the unique take on vampires. As I get older, unique perspectives on old ideas are more fascinating for me. I guess I am so tired of the same old crap that anything slightly unique is interesting.

As to the writing style, it is simple but not written "down" for a teenager. It kinda' reminds me of Harry Potter. Written so a kid can enjoy it but not aggravating for an adult.
It is written better than some popular authors who don't target children (Dean Koontz comes to mind).
Bottom line, I really probably read all four.
Posted by Anastasia Beaverhousen
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2005
1177 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 11:01 am to
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If you like mystery novels and/or read a lot, you will not like these books.


Thank you!! I love to read all kinds of books and I hated this. I only got about 1/3 of the way through the first one and I couldn't take it anymore.

The writing was so bad, I felt my IQ going down with every chapter. And for the most part, it was really boring and tedious. You're just going to high school with this girl everyday, where she's wondering if the hot guy will be there and if he'll look at her. Not to mention, she has zero personality and a bad attitude.

I was somewhat interested in the vampire aspect of the story, but I couldn't even make it that far into the book. I think I'll just pick up some Ann Rice instead.
Posted by TheDude
Member since May 2004
2675 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 11:16 am to
I got suckered into watching the movie with my wife also. I didn't think it was great but ok. My problem is that I hate not finishing something that I start so I started reading the second book. The second book was honestly a bit tedious. I thought about not reading any further but like I said,I wanted to finish the series. The third book was much better. I'm about halfway through the 4th book and it is by far the best from what I have read. This one, I would actually say that I'm enjoying.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24956 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 11:18 am to
Yeah second book wasn't decent till the last half. Third book was better and fourth is by far my favorite also. More going on in the later books than just an endless obsession with edward.
Posted by TigerBabeNtheWoods
In a hole.
Member since Sep 2003
9440 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 11:53 am to
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As to the writing style, it is simple but not written "down" for a teenager. It kinda' reminds me of Harry Potter. Written so a kid can enjoy it but not aggravating for an adult.


I disagree with this. I started the Harry Potter series and I could not read it because it was written down so much. I was talked into picking it up again and when I got to the third book, I really started to enjoy them as the difficulty level picked up.
As far as this one goes, I found it very annoying. If you don't find it obsessive, you will and the ending of the fourth book is so predictable it's unpredictable (as in you think there is no way the author could possibly be goin in the direction you think she's going in because it would be too easy).
Posted by HoustonsTiger
Houston
Member since Feb 2007
388 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 2:47 pm to
There is not a whole lot on here that has been encouraging to start reading the books or watch the movie for that matter.

That being said I think if she wants me to I probably will b/c a happy gf is always a better gf haha.

I've heard that the whole thing is about a girl obsessing over a guy. I have no idea why that would be considered a good book but again, as a man I think logically which may be working against me in this case
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 2:59 pm to
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That being said I think if she wants me to I probably will b/c a happy gf is always a better gf haha.


I great and wise man once said (OK, several times):

A happy wife is a happy life!
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34476 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 4:07 pm to
I saw the first movie and although it was pretty "teen romanced" it wasn't as horrible as I thought it would be. I think I need to defend the first movie a little. It was made on the cheap because the books hadn't taken off just yet and they really didn't know the thing would become so huge. The "werewolve vs. vampire" aspect intrigued me so much that I had to read the books.

Having said that, it took me forever to read Twilight. It is so filled with teenage romance crap that it is almost unbearable. I mean, yes he has a chiseled chin and a chest like marble, we get it Stephanie. You don't have to tell us over and over. The last three books were much better and I finished all three of them in about two weeks.

My main gripe is that Bella is totally useless, at least until the last part of the last book. She has her life saved at least 3 times a book by someone else. I'm not a women's rights activist or anything, but the role of "useless female love interest who can only get in danger and needs to be rescued constantly" may be popular with teenage girls, but I think it is tired and played out.

Plus I wasn't overwhelmed with the job Kristen Stewart played as Bella. Which was a little dissappointing because I had thought she did a good job in the 2 or 3 movies I had seen her in before.

Also, I don't like the theme that Stephanie is pushing with these books. This whole notion that Edward and Bella are in some kind great, romantic relationship is ludicrous. They are obsessed with each other, not in love with each other. Which I guess is okay in vampire world where you have no problems and reality never sets in. But in the real world, this teenage love fantasy come true is extremely unhealthy.

Anyway, the books are entertaining, not life changing. They get better as you go. Hopefully, the movies will be just as good.
Posted by HoustonsTiger
Houston
Member since Feb 2007
388 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 4:57 pm to
Thanks, seems to be a pretty good description of what to expect. I realasitcalyl don't see that I would have any desire to read the books but if the movie is bearable that would be good. Again, I work offshore for weeks at atime, I can stand 2 hours of just about anything hahaha.
Posted by TigerPrincess
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2007
19833 posts
Posted on 7/7/09 at 6:40 pm to
You should watch it. It's only 90 minutes and there's some violence in it for you.

The books are 10,000x better though and I agree with the person that said that the beautiful character development in the books was completely left out of the movie. I'm hoping that with the significantly larger budget, the next one will be better.
Posted by CentralBayouBengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
7 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 12:12 am to
I will echo pretty much everyone else on here. The movie wasn't one of the worst I have seen but was made on a low budget. It is missing key character development that you should probably ask your gf to fill you in as it would show you are interested/care (bonus points). If you are ever bored I would recommend to read the books, the first is definitely not "guy" material but the next three are pretty good and not so much of the love story. These books are targeted to the young adult demographic but it won't emasculate you if you read them. But be careful the obsession will get you as each book never really finishes and leaves you wondering...what next?
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 12:21 am to
I got suckered into watching it last week

Stu was not a happy camper to say the least - save the couple of times I dozed off - the movie/acting/storyline was awful
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:58 am to
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I got suckered into watching it last week


I didnt realize half of TD's posters have 14 year old girlfriends.

I'm not even being an arse but I am completely shocked at how many guys have had to watch this with there girl.

I can't see any girl over 20 wanting to watch this, and if they did, I can't see myself having much in common with that girl. But if she was smokin hot...
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 6:47 am to
I saw it on DVD with the girlfriend. Its not that bad though it really is geared to teenagers and chicks. There is some action and cool effects in the movie which makes it more enjoyable. Also, like someone else said, its not really long so it doesn't take up that much time.

Heres my point, you probably won't hate it. It'll make your wife/gf happy which will aid your chances of getting laid that night.

Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 9:13 am to
1) If you need to watch a crappy movie to get laid, then you have issues.

2) really a corollary of (1), increasing one's chances to get laid does not justify spending money on a shitty movie.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 9:43 am to
quote:

1) If you need to watch a crappy movie to get laid, then you have issues.

2) really a corollary of (1), increasing one's chances to get laid does not justify spending money on a shitty movie.


What crawled up your arse?? Never said anything about needing to watch this to get laid. Movie isn't awful.

It will put the wifey in a good mood and there are DEFINITELY worse options for spending 90 mins.
Posted by HoustonsTiger
Houston
Member since Feb 2007
388 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

1) If you need to watch a crappy movie to get laid, then you have issues.


Really getting laid had nothing to do with it, I was just curious wha to expect from the movie. Hence asking if it was crappy or not.

quote:

2) really a corollary of (1), increasing one's chances to get laid does not justify spending money on a shitty movie.


Renting a movie isn't what I would call "breaking the bank" but thanks for your invaluable input to this thread, I'm sure we can all sleep better now........
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 12:48 pm to
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1) If you need to watch a crappy movie to get laid, then you have issues.



If you are "above" watching a mediocre movie that your woman might enjoy, in order to get laid, then YOU have issues.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 1:13 pm to
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If you are "above" watching a mediocre movie that your woman might enjoy, in order to get laid, then YOU have issues.


If it takes watching a piece of shite movie for your woman to want to have sex with you, then what does that say about you?

Any, my point from a couple of posts up was that the "it'll help me get laid" argument or "Megan Fox alone is worth watching this shitty movie" arguments are pretty fricking weak and, at the end of the day, unoriginal excuses to yourself. You're trying to justify wasting your time AND your money on something that you know sucks, and you know that because you wasted your money on it, you're helping to perpetuate it. So you feel guilty and have to rationalize your decision.

Prayers sent.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22376 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:43 pm to
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"it'll help me get laid" argument or "Megan Fox alone is worth watching this shitty movie" arguments are pretty fricking weak and, at the end of the day, unoriginal excuses to yourself. You're trying to justify wasting your time AND your money on something that you know sucks,


If you read my post you'll understand that I didn't think the movie sucked and I just said will aid your chances of getting laid that night. I thought the movie was OK. I didn't feel like I waisted how ever much it costs to rent a movie these days. The post movie sex would just be lagniappe.

I get it would should, as men, REFUSE to do anything we wouldn't normally do with our friends in order to make our wife/gf happy. Give me a break...

We get it, you're a man who is above watching a "chick flick" that would make their woman happy.
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 2:48 pm
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