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re: TWD 7 days away and no chatter? (NO SPOILERS, RETARDS!)
Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:45 am to LE610N
Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:45 am to LE610N
I can't wait for the new season to start...I bitch about certain things but still love the show. I think it gets shite on way more than it deserves (though some of it is definitely deserved).
I agree that certain things about the way season three ended pissed me off (like Gov, for example), but all in all I thought it was a fairly solid season. Definitely better than season two (which, upon reflection, wasn't as bad as most people originally thought).
I do think the show sort of has the cards stacked against it when it comes to some things though. For example, people want it to be realistic and want the people on it to make realistic decisions. That's fine, and understandable...but when they set up shop in a safe haven like the farm or the prison, people bitch because the show is stagnant and they are staying in one place too long. You can't have it both ways...so the show will always have one group of people bitching about it.
I'm confident that they will improve this season, and I'll definitely keep watching unless something drastic happens to push me away.
I agree that certain things about the way season three ended pissed me off (like Gov, for example), but all in all I thought it was a fairly solid season. Definitely better than season two (which, upon reflection, wasn't as bad as most people originally thought).
I do think the show sort of has the cards stacked against it when it comes to some things though. For example, people want it to be realistic and want the people on it to make realistic decisions. That's fine, and understandable...but when they set up shop in a safe haven like the farm or the prison, people bitch because the show is stagnant and they are staying in one place too long. You can't have it both ways...so the show will always have one group of people bitching about it.
I'm confident that they will improve this season, and I'll definitely keep watching unless something drastic happens to push me away.
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:59 am to Libertyabides71
Its good for what it is..but it moves a little to slow, and I was really giving it a chance to prove me wrong.
I'm going to watch every week, I won't complain..but I just can't get excited about it until something major happens.
I personally feel like the season 4 previews displayed all the good stuff that we will see this season.
I'm going to watch every week, I won't complain..but I just can't get excited about it until something major happens.
I personally feel like the season 4 previews displayed all the good stuff that we will see this season.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:30 am to ColaTiger
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That shite finale last season completely killed what little interest I had left.
I liked the season finale. 
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:57 am to Libertyabides71
All the complaints are because the show wasn't what people wanted it to be. For instance, season 2 ended with a mysterious badass and a mysterious city. Michonne could have been better but she more or less lived up to the expectations built for her. Woodbury on the other hand just wasn't very well done. At the end of season 2 you get the feeling that civilization is returning and things are going to change and it's not like that at all. I was expecting at least some Barter Townesque stronghold, not a mom and pop level cult town. I definitely liked some things they did, but they could have done much better IMO. That might be part of why there is a spinoff in the works, because they seem to want to keep the scope on the show very small/narrow.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:19 am to CocomoLSU
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For example, people want it to be realistic and want the people on it to make realistic decisions. That's fine, and understandable...but when they set up shop in a safe haven like the farm or the prison, people bitch because the show is stagnant and they are staying in one place too long.
Yeah I completely agree. If it was me I would set up shop in that prison and never leave unless absolutely necessary.
Really looking forward to this season because I love the show. Curious to see what they do with the new group of old farts and how the zombies get to them.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:23 am to CocomoLSU
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I can't wait for the new season to start...I bitch about certain things but still love the show. I think it gets shite on way more than it deserves (though some of it is definitely deserved).
I agree that certain things about the way season three ended pissed me off (like Gov, for example), but all in all I thought it was a fairly solid season. Definitely better than season two (which, upon reflection, wasn't as bad as most people originally thought).
I do think the show sort of has the cards stacked against it when it comes to some things though. For example, people want it to be realistic and want the people on it to make realistic decisions. That's fine, and understandable...but when they set up shop in a safe haven like the farm or the prison, people bitch because the show is stagnant and they are staying in one place too long. You can't have it both ways...so the show will always have one group of people bitching about it.
I'm confident that they will improve this season, and I'll definitely keep watching unless something drastic happens to push me away.
Spot on.
The show delivers exactly on what it promises. Do people really want to see survivors running from Zombies every single week? THAT would get boring.
It seems people don't like it, but still watch it.
I'll ask this (because I used to write treatises for what I wanted to see in Lost):
What could Walking Dead improve to make you change your mind?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:29 am to Coon
Last season was disappointing but, I'll never miss an episode because...zombies. If this show was about anything else, I probably would have given up on it.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:33 am to Libertyabides71
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Libertyabides71
If you like a show but it's not winning Emmy's...don't discuss on MTV board. They think every show should be Breaking Bad good and poke holes in plots like they could actually do better themselves.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:47 am to Freauxzen
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What could Walking Dead improve to make you change your mind?
Show that there is more out there than Team Rick and the Governor. I've said I want to see a Barter Town many times and that makes people think Mad Max, but it could be more like that trading town in Jericho. I think the biggest problem with TWD is the scope. They don't want to address causes or cures, they just want to focus on Team Rick's fight for survival. Like I said, I'm hopeful the spinoff has a broader scope instead of being Team New Guys.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:49 am to Freauxzen
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The show delivers exactly on what it promises. Do people really want to see survivors running from Zombies every single week? THAT would get boring.
Right. Like someone said, it's not "about zombies" at all really...it's about the characters and humanity in general, all set in the midst of a ZA. The zombies serve as mainly a threat/distraction to what all is really going on. I mean, the zombies aren't ever really the "bad guys" a lot of the time anymore (Gov, mexicans in the hospital, Shane, etc.).
Now, the characters themselves have certainly been unlikable at times (some intentional, some not). I don't have a problem with some of those gripes. But I feel like some of the gripes miss the mark.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:51 am to TigerinATL
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They don't want to address causes or cures,
They already covered that extensively. Did you not see the whole season leading up to them getting to the CDC in Atlanta where Gordo(Frequency reference) shows them what happens to the brain and basically says that there is no cure and that this is happening worldwide?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:53 am to TigerinATL
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Show that there is more out there than Team Rick and the Governor. I've said I want to see a Barter Town many times and that makes people think Mad Max, but it could be more like that trading town in Jericho. I think the biggest problem with TWD is the scope.
Fair assessment. I think they'll get there (or a version of it), probably soon. I think the early budget was limited to keep the show high in quality and small in scale. With it becoming one of the most popular shows on television, hopefully we get bigger scope.
Also, to put this in perspective, in general, we've only seen a Season and a half of the show. some close to 40 episodes.
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They don't want to address causes or cures, they just want to focus on Team Rick's fight for survival.
Probably true, but I think by necessity rather than choice.
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Like I said, I'm hopeful the spinoff has a broader scope instead of being Team New Guys.
Which would be the other option. The spinoff might go in the big scope direction. That would be an odd choice, but it looks like Season 4, while ramping up the action, may not go too broad. There's a lot still to be seen though.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:54 am to LSUnowhas2
I still enjoy the show, though for a character driven show, they don't seem to have enough interesting characters.
My main point of contention is usually that to drive any action, there generally has to be some monumentally stupid mistake made by one of the characters. I think that's what leads them to being so unlikable. People generally don't like to spend time around people that actively participate in their own destruction.
My main point of contention is usually that to drive any action, there generally has to be some monumentally stupid mistake made by one of the characters. I think that's what leads them to being so unlikable. People generally don't like to spend time around people that actively participate in their own destruction.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:55 am to LSUnowhas2
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Did you not see the whole season leading up to them getting to the CDC in Atlanta where Gordo(Frequency reference) shows them what happens to the brain and basically says that there is no cure and that this is happening worldwide?
Not currently having a cure =/= uncurable. Also knowing the who, what, when, where, how of the disease would be nice to know. If the ZA actually comes I hope we have better people trying to save the day than that quitter at the CDC.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:56 am to TigerinATL
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When the ZA actually comes I hope we have better people trying to save the day than that quitter at the CDC.
FIFY
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:57 am to ProjectP2294
I originally had when but I didn't want to start a panic.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:57 am to LSUnowhas2
On Ep 8 of season 3 on Netflix right now. Whole lotta meh honestly, but I still feel compelled to watch. I'll catch up eventually while recording the new episodes.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:00 am to ProjectP2294
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though for a character driven show, they don't seem to have enough interesting characters.
Very legitimate gripe IMO. And the acting is really bad sometimes...not bad enough to turn me off the show, but laughably bad at times.
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My main point of contention is usually that to drive any action, there generally has to be some monumentally stupid mistake made by one of the characters. I think that's what leads them to being so unlikable. People generally don't like to spend time around people that actively participate in their own destruction.
Absolutely. I've said that before...without those stupid decisions, all we would do is see them farming and living boring arse lives within the friendly confines of the prison-protected walls. Something has to drive plots, and most of the time that's gonna be stupid decisions by the main characters.
That's why, even though I get mad at the characters sometimes, it's more in a fun way in that I still enjoy the show - I just like bitching about it sometimes.
Except for Lori. frick her...she was terrible. And even though she was supposed to be, she pissed me off.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:00 am to TigerinATL
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Not currently having a cure =/= uncurable. Also knowing the who, what, when, where, how of the disease would be nice to know. If the ZA actually comes I hope we have better people trying to save the day than that quitter at the CDC.
The point of that episode was that if the CDC can't find a cure then the world is truly fricked. The CDC has some of the best scientists in then entire world. Gordo even talks about how the brain scan he is showing them is that of his own wife. There is no cure. The Walking Dead aren't going away and are here to stay.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:00 am to Freauxzen
The Last of Us, while a video game, showed what TWD should be. Lets see the landscape. Lets see what's become of America during a zombie apocalypse.
Could introduce a number of plots. A teenager was on a study trip to New York City is trying to get back to Denver to see if anyone has survived. A dad and his family are trying to get to Canada or another sparsely populated region where there shouldn't be too many walkers.
They could treat it like Game of Thrones. A number of story lines and we follow them a little at a time through each season.
It could be anything other than sitting in a guarded prison talking about the governor along with Andrea trying to figure out her feelings.
Could introduce a number of plots. A teenager was on a study trip to New York City is trying to get back to Denver to see if anyone has survived. A dad and his family are trying to get to Canada or another sparsely populated region where there shouldn't be too many walkers.
They could treat it like Game of Thrones. A number of story lines and we follow them a little at a time through each season.
It could be anything other than sitting in a guarded prison talking about the governor along with Andrea trying to figure out her feelings.
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