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Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:40 am to Wayne Campbell
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:40 am to Wayne Campbell
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Han shot first.
Han shot. It wasn't first. It was the only shot fired.
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:58 am to Lacour
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They apparently were trying to make the movie too funny in the vein of 21 Jump Street and the Lego Movie
No thanks.....
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:18 am to Breesus
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Kasdan wrote the script.
Well there may be a shred of hope then. How can they start out so well as having Lawrence Kasdan writing the script and then go so far off-course to hire these two to direct it?
ETA: this movie
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:34 am to dallastiger55
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Give us a raw, gritty Solo movie.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:46 pm to Lacour
I'm ambivalent simply because I never even wanted a Han Solo movie. Obi-Wan, Old Republic era, even Palpatine...there are so many better stories to explore than Han.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:03 pm to Tom288
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I'm ambivalent simply because I never even wanted a Han Solo movie.
it is silly. just fan service
i mean they're making a fricking boba fett movie
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it is silly. just fan service
OH THE HUMANITY!
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they're making a fricking boba fett movie
No they're not. That's stupid. Quit being stupid.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 4:31 pm to Bluefin
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Han Solo is absolutely a self-interested space pirate/slimeball before he joins the Rebellion. A real nerf herder, if you will.
If you were trying to make a movie that was true to Solo prior to ANH, he'd probably be the anatognist
Posted on 6/21/17 at 6:33 pm to Antonio Moss
Han is supposed to be a decent guy who always finds himself in shitty situations because he generally makes bad decisions. Like a hooker with a heart of gold.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:01 am to Lacour
quote:Judging by the comments, their dismissal is pretty well-received. But I'm personally disappointed.
They apparently were trying to make the movie too funny in the vein of 21 Jump Street and the Lego Movie
They were off choices given their background, which is predominantly comedy oriented (Directors of 21/22 Jump Street, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, & Lego Movie; creators of Last Man on Earth), but I think they've done a good job underlying drama within those ventures--despite being almost fully comedic/family centric. Regardless, it wasn't like their style was unknown beforehand.
And while I'll obviously give Kennedy the benefit of the doubt, given the two other recent films, between this and Trank, I'm not extremely confident nonetheless.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:14 am to buckeye_vol
I guess I'm a little confused. They hired guys that specialize in comedy and then fire them for making a comedy?
Why did they hire them in the first place?
Why did they hire them in the first place?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:37 am to Lacour
A Han Solo slapstick comedy would make a killing. He could be like Moe and Chewy could be a cross between Larry and Curly. Comedy gold
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:17 pm to buckeye_vol
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Regardless, it wasn't like their style was unknown beforehand.
I don't think Lucasfilm/Disney was expecting Ace Ventura though...
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Sources close to the project say that Miller and Lord were approaching the character of Han Solo in a more comedic approach, which didn't sit right with many people, specifically young Han Solo himself, Alden Ehrenreich.
Inside sources close to the project revealed to Star Wars News Net that Alden Ehrenreich voiced his concerns before anybody about the direction that Phil Lord and Chris Miller were taking the famous smuggler. Star Wars News Net explains.
"Ehrenreich had concerns with the production as filming progressed, he started to worry that Lord and Miller's screwball comedy angle was starting to interfere with what the character of Han Solo is really about - even if this was a younger, more reckless take on the character than the one we met in the cantina of Tatooine."
This position is completely understandable to anybody familiar with Star Wars and the character of Hans Solo. Han Solo is seen as more of a sarcastic character that starts off rather selfish at the beginning of the Star Wars trilogy and viewers aren't sure at first whether they can trust him.
As if the very mention of "screwball comedy" weren't enough, the source went on to say that Lord and Miller's portrayal of young Han Solo was like Jim Carrey's Ace Ventura at times.
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One new report even claims that Lucasfilm weren’t just unhappy with Miller and Lord’s approach: they were concerned about the performance they were getting from star Alden Ehrenreich.
Speaking to sources close to both the production of the movie and the ousted directors Miller and Lord, the Hollywood Reporter alleges multiple situations indicative of a deep, growing difference between the duo and Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy. From a slow pace during filming to a lack of extra takes to use in the editing process, both Kennedy and Solo co-scriptwriter/producer Lawrence Kasdan began expressing concerns about the direction Miller and Lord were pushing the second Star Wars anthology film. Likewise, sources speaking to THR claim Miller and Lord were beginning to feel like encroaching pressure from Kennedy and Kasdan was stifling their creative freedom during the production process.
In an attempt to change things up when filming moved from London to the Canary Islands in May this year, Lucasfilm not only replaced the editor of the film, Chris Dickens, with longtime Ridley Scott collaborator Pietro Scalia—they also asked Miller and Lord to bring on an acting coach (as THR notes, while it’s not unusual for acting coaches to be hired, it’s unprecedented for a film so late in production) for star Alden Ehrenreich, after registering dissatisfaction with the performance Miller and Lord were getting out of the man tasked with stepping into Harrison Ford’s leather boots.
When Kennedy requested Kasdan head to the set after these shakeups didn’t lead to the changes they were looking for, Miller and Lord pushed back at his presence—said to be similar to Tony Gilroy’s late-game involvement in completing Rogue One after its own production troubles—and a day later, Kennedy made the decision to fire the directors. Alarmingly, one source speaking to THR claims that upon the announcement to the crew that Ron Howard would step in to take over the film a day after Miller and Lord’s firing, applause broke out. But while Miller and Lord are now off the film, sources claim that Howard is very willing to use much of the footage they shot to help complete the movie.
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:22 pm to Dr RC
I thought Lord & Miller were a horrible choice for a Han Solo film to begin with, not that I wanted a Solo film. They should have gone with a Kenobi film then Old Republic.
With that said, this following the stuff surrounding Rogue One does have me a little concerned with Kathleen Kennedy & Lucasfilm, because it's like they want to bring in hot up & comer directors who have a distinct style, but they also want them to conform largely to whatever "formula" they have in mind for these anthology films. And that's fine, having a formula, in fact I think it's a good thing because you have to make sure the film feels like Star Wars. But that brings in to question why go after these types of directors in the first place?
Gareth Edwards ultimately played ball, but I'd love to see the Rogue One he was originally going for. Seems like Lord & Miller weren't willing to play ball & it got them canned.
With that said, this following the stuff surrounding Rogue One does have me a little concerned with Kathleen Kennedy & Lucasfilm, because it's like they want to bring in hot up & comer directors who have a distinct style, but they also want them to conform largely to whatever "formula" they have in mind for these anthology films. And that's fine, having a formula, in fact I think it's a good thing because you have to make sure the film feels like Star Wars. But that brings in to question why go after these types of directors in the first place?
Gareth Edwards ultimately played ball, but I'd love to see the Rogue One he was originally going for. Seems like Lord & Miller weren't willing to play ball & it got them canned.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:23 pm to Dr RC
Not Miller and Lords fault. They made the kind of movie they make. It's Lucas Films fault for hiring them.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:25 pm to Tom288
A Solo film was a dumb idea from day 1. Literally no one was asking for this film.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:25 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Well the cast Donald glover as lando. That should have been a red flag.
Donald Glover is a versatile actor pal.
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I wish they would have put the breaks on abrams
Oh...I get it. You're stupid.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
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A Solo film was a dumb idea from day 1. Literally no one was asking for this film.
The idea to have the film wasn't stupid. The execution was stupid.
Just as having a 4th Indiana Jones film where he hands off the franchise to his "son" isn't stupid. But, aliens, refrigerators in nuclear explosions, Shia LaBeouf... that's all stupid.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:40 pm to FootballNostradamus
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in the vein of 21 Jump Street and the Lego Movie
While this probably wouldn't feel right for a Star Wars movie, it would probably still be a crazy fun film.
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