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re: Tom Hanks After Storming The Beach On D-Day

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Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:17 am to
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Absolutely. He just doesn't do those films.

Again, I feel that range of movies and range of acting is getting confused here.



No. DDL absolutely could not pull of Cast Away or League of Their Own for that matter.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:27 am to
Cast Away, of course he could, and you're being dumb saying he couldn't. League............again, we haven't seen him in a comedy so it's hard to fathom.
Posted by RidiculousHype
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:31 am to
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He's great in Catch me if you can.

Not many people bring up that role, very underrated.


How'd ya do it, Frank? How'd ya pass the bah in Louisiana?
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:33 am to
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we haven't seen him in a comedy so it's hard to fathom.


It's possible DDL hasn't done a comedy because he knows he can't
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:35 am to
BS reasoning, but whatever.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:35 am to
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Cast Away, of course he could, and you're being dumb saying he couldn't. League............again, we haven't seen him in a comedy so it's hard to fathom.


It's not even debatable. Part of what made Hanks great in Cast Away was him being the "every man" guy. He was so good in that movie because most people could relate to him. That's not DDL's wheelhouse. His bread and butter are completely over the top characters.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:36 am to
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Hanks is the modern day Jimmy Stewart


Ding!

Give that poster a ceegar
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:39 am to
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Again, I feel that range of movies and range of acting is getting confused here.


I think you're conflating range and depth. DDL has great depth. He dives and immerses himself in a character. But he doesn't stray far from his dramatic comfort zone. He displays wonderful range within that comfort zone, but he is an actor of depth, not range.

Character actors like Brendan Gleason and PSH (and to some degree Robin Williams) have astonishing range and depth. Gleason in particular has astonishing depth considering the range he has. He can disappear into a character while also managing to be dramatic or comic. He is unbelievable.

Hanks has tons of range. He can do comedy, drama, even a little action. But he's a star and, as such, is constrained a bit in how much he can disappear into his characters. There must be a sense of familiarity with him. That said, roles like Forrest Gump and Philadelphia showcase his ability to actually become a character and leave himself out of it.

So I think that DDL has proven himself to be one of the finest dramatic actors of all time, perhaps the best and certainly the best working today. But he has not shown himself to have great range in the sense I believe most of us are speaking.
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:40 am to
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BS reasoning, but whatever


How is that BS? Is it not possible that he doesn't do comedy because he can't? Seems more reasonable to think he can't otherwise he would have done so by now.

Hasn't done a comedy so it's possible he can't = unreasonable

I know he can do a comedy even though we haven't seen it just because I know he can = reasonable
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:42 am to
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How is that BS? Is it not possible that he doesn't do comedy because he can't? Seems more reasonable to think he can't otherwise he would have done so by now.



I've seen him do funny moments in his movies. Considering how picky he is, I think it's more reasonable that he just doesn't prefer to do those types of films.

I hear that argument all the time with video games. "You don't like it because you suck at it." No. That's not it at all.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:45 am to
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hear that argument all the time with video games. "You don't like it because you suck at it." No. That's not it at all.


I mean, it could be. And it sounds like it is in your case otherwise why bring that completely unrelated topic up?
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:48 am to
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I've seen him do funny moments in his movies. Considering how picky he is, I think it's more reasonable that he just doesn't prefer to do those types of films.


I mean, kudos for knowing your limits I guess. Saying he's picky is just silly. He may be but that's because there aren't a whole lot of roles out there in his wheelhouse. When one does come along he absolutely nails it. For instance, when you look at imdb you see that he has a project coming up. The setting? The 1950's London Fashion World. How much more DDL does it get than that? Wanna bet he plays an over-eccentric, possibly gay, fashion designer?

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I hear that argument all the time with video games. "You don't like it because you suck at it." No. That's not it at all.


This entire sentence cracks me up. How old are you?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:51 am to
It's called "analogy".

Lewis and Hanks could do anything they wanted, they're that talented. I won't say neither of them have done horror because they know they'd suck at it. I won't say neither have done a movie with Adam Sandler because they wouldn't be any good.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:52 am to
18 and live in my mom's basement.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:25 am to
It's called "context," you sniveling little shite. And your comment about video games lacked it. It appeared more an opportunity to vent your frustrations about people saying you aren't very good at video games rather than saying, "just because you aren't good at something and don't like it, doesn't mean you don't like it because you aren't good at it."
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by lsusportsman2
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:15 pm to
I fricking adore Tom Hanks.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:27 pm to
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It's called "context," you sniveling little shite.





Just because you choose not to do something doesn't mean you're admitting you're awful at it.

MAYBE DDL thinks he would suck at comedy. Or maybe he feels he would be all right but of course is never going to be approached for that role. These are all assumptions since we'll probably never see him in a comedic role. I think DDL would be excellent in a Coen Brothers film. Shoot, this scene is pretty comedic to me.

Again, apples and oranges. Hanks will probably go down as one of the greatest, but I feel you guys are discounting DDL in this simply because he hasn't done nearly as many films and is super picky.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Again, apples and oranges. Hanks will probably go down as one of the greatest, but I feel you guys are discounting DDL in this simply because he hasn't done nearly as many films and is super picky

I called him perhaps the greatest dramatic actor of all time. I simply said he doesn't have the range of Hanks. That notion triggered this whole devolution of the thread because you couldn't fathom the thought. "Range" does not necessarily equate to "talent," nor does lack of range equate to lack of talent. And I tried to clarify what I meant by range versus what it appears you mean by range and
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Here we are.
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
Why are we even arguing between DDL and Hanks? They are two of the best. There skills are just different. It's like arguing between which supermodel you would rather bang.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Again, apples and oranges. Hanks will probably go down as one of the greatest, but I feel you guys are discounting DDL in this simply because he hasn't done nearly as many films and is super picky.


He'll "probably go down as one of the greatest"??


No one is discounting DDL. He's the best at what he does. The problem is he does one type of role and has zero interest in trying anything else. Before A League of Their Own every role Hanks played was pretty much his Bosom Buddies character. Then after that he did Philadelphi which made him a bonafide dramatic actor. He branched out and nailed it. DDL really should do that, if for no other reason, just to prove he can.
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