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re: The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story series long thread
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:37 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:37 pm to OMLandshark
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I honestly feel really bad for their kids.
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OMLandshark
No you don't.
You hijacked this thread...not able to counter any obvious common sense disparities - like the total lack of blood to a degree it should be present...the weird unnatural presence of how blood was present...the socks perfectly laid out in the middle of OJ's bedroom - despite the fact that OJ apparently got rid of all his other (massively) bloody clothes and the washing machine had house pipes showed no traces of blood and he disposed of everything...but of course, he laid his socks out perfect for the cops to find them and two little drops of vial blood...and though leaving a glove a the scene...carried one home, like a breadcrumb and despite disposing of all other blood evidence and miraculously Cloraxing the car and hosing it down - he throws a glove into his backyard and says, frick it...I don't care about getting caught.
You have called black jurors in this thread idiots, you have called jews, ugly.
You have disputed nothing but old lines from 1994.
You have analyzed nothing because you have no skill - you are not legally trained like those who oppose your simplistic I just borrowed it from TV world view - for you - reasonable doubt doesn't matter and blood doesn't matter - because frankly you don't know any better and can't understand the evidence and legal analysis.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:47 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Who is more screwed up in the head? OJ's kids or Michael Jackson's kids? I know Paris tried to kill herself.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:49 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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No you don't.
Yeah I do. They are victims of some of the most severe trauma you can go through. Even if you're right, their mother was murdered when they were upstairs asleep. I'm not a sociopath and know what that can do to a kid, especially at that young of an age. I am a gigantic advocate for trauma victims and think that society at large mostly fails them.
If there is anything I've made clear in this thread, it is that I care about the victims in this case and find it sickening that the justice system failed them. How dare you say I don't care about the victims in this case.
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You hijacked this thread...not able to counter any obvious common sense disparities -
Common sense? You throw out blind bullshite conspiracy theories at every turn. More&Les I'll deal with since on paper his theories at least make sense, but yours are total twaddle. I treat your accusations about as seriously as 9/11 conspiracy theories.
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You have called black jurors in this thread idiots
My venom is more geared towards Ito than the jury for putting them in the precarious situation in the first place. I don't think they were smart, but the factors that lead to the jury's decision are far more infuriating than the decision itself.
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you have called jews, ugly.
OK, so I call one Jew ugly, and all of the sudden I'm anti-Semitic? Let me guess, all the OT hates white people because they think Kate Upton is fat? Nonsense as usual from you.
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You have analyzed nothing because you have no skill - you are not legally trained like those who oppose your simplistic I just borrowed it from TV world view - for you - reasonable doubt doesn't matter and blood doesn't matter - because frankly you don't know any better and can't understand the evidence and legal analysis.
I'm going with the chances you being legally trained right about at zero. And even if you were, I have a 100 legal experts who think OJ is guilty for your every one who thinks he's innocent.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:53 pm to OMLandshark
Wow. Paula is hot. What's her story? Did she stay with OJ during the trail?
Kim Goldman tweeted OJs address incase any of you want to be pen pals with him. I'm looking at you OML.
Kim Goldman tweeted OJs address incase any of you want to be pen pals with him. I'm looking at you OML.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 2:02 am
Posted on 4/8/16 at 6:58 am to JabarkusRussell
That shirt Jenner is wearing should have been a red flag.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:25 am to JabarkusRussell
Kourtney is looking just like her mom
Posted on 4/8/16 at 10:18 am to OMLandshark
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If Clark hadn't put Furhman on the stand, there's a good chance OJ would have been convicted.
If she hadn't, the defense would have.
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But no one fricked up more consistently than Ito. It was almost every day. He turned it into a kangaroo court and allowed the defense to escalate it to its highest possible level when he should have stopped them.
I don't think you understand some things about what Ito could have and could not have allowed as far as evidence and questioning.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:05 pm to Gris Gris
What am I missing on Barry Scheck? He's all in favor of using DNA to prove innocence but in a case where DNA proves obvious guilt he's on the defense?
I'm dumb when it comes to lawyering, somebody explain this to me.
I'm dumb when it comes to lawyering, somebody explain this to me.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:09 pm to RandySavage
DNA wasn't as advanced then as it is now. Also, he was all over tainted evidence.
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:54 pm to Gris Gris
I have never seen a case with such overwhelming evidence against one person that the prosecution screwed up so bad. I have never heard or talked to one person how thinks he didn't do it. What still shocks me to this day is that they allowed him to the funeral.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 12:02 am to RandySavage
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What am I missing on Barry Scheck? He's all in favor of using DNA to prove innocence but in a case where DNA proves obvious guilt he's on the defense?
I'm dumb when it comes to lawyering, somebody explain this to me.
Because the man understands DNA, and thus is the perfect person to refute it. He was the best and most thorough lawyer of the Simpson case. If I were rich and accused of murder, he'd be the first man I called. He's THE expert and knows all the loop holes.
Barry has gone on record saying that he thinks OJ is guilty BTW.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 2:18 am to dukke v
I have never seen a case with such overwhelming evidence against one person that the prosecution screwed up so bad. I have never heard or talked to one person how thinks he didn't do it. What still shocks me to this day is that they allowed him to the funeral.
Not sure who "they" is or how he could have been kept from the funeral at that point. His children lost their mother. Even if her family thought he did it at that point, in their defense, they put those young children first. Kudos to them. They didn't have custody. Lots of future things to think about at that time involving those kids in addition to the loss of Nicole. They did the right thing at the time. Had to be hard.
Not sure who "they" is or how he could have been kept from the funeral at that point. His children lost their mother. Even if her family thought he did it at that point, in their defense, they put those young children first. Kudos to them. They didn't have custody. Lots of future things to think about at that time involving those kids in addition to the loss of Nicole. They did the right thing at the time. Had to be hard.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 2:59 am to dukke v
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I have never seen a case with such overwhelming evidence against one person that the prosecution screwed up so bad. I have never heard or talked to one person how thinks he didn't do it. What still shocks me to this day is that they allowed him to the funeral.
They didn't have all of that blood evidence processed a week after the murders. The defense destroyed the investigation and the handling of evidence because it was terrible. That show was very entertaining, but IRL the defense tediously dismantled the way the police gathered and analyzed evidence.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 3:01 am
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:10 am to OMLandshark
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Barry has gone on record saying that he thinks OJ is guilty BTW.
So he's basically a POS?
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:01 am to JabarkusRussell
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Wow. Paula is hot. What's her story? Did she stay with OJ during the trail?
During the Civil trial, the lawyers for the Goldman family deposed Paula. She is on record stating that she broke up with OJ the morning before Nicole and Ron's murders occurred. There was a Voicemail left for OJ by her and a papertrail showing that OJ called in to receive that Voicemail that day. OJ denied making that call, under oath, during his Civil trial deposition.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:34 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Alan Derschowitz talked
Good God here we go.He actually fabricated but lets not split hairs if you wanna regurgitate theories...by all means go all in.
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a sock contained a chemical called EDTA which could have ONLY have gotten if it was stored in a medical vial
Ok,this is from FBI agent Roger Martz who was called by the DEFENSE TEAM and who actually did the testing on the blood found at the gate and on the sock.He testified "both samples DID NOT come from preserved blood"
There were THREE test done for EDTA and only lne of the tests contained some of the same "ions as EDTA but the 2 others were precluded" only one could not "excude the possibility that SOME of the physical characteristics and molecular composistion of EDTA was found in the blood"
Furthermore "It is not appropriate to identify EDTA based on the data I provided"
EDTA is also one of the most common food preservatives and found in mayonnaise,breakfast cereal and almost any other shelf life foods.Per Martz "Its only logical to conclude if someone was eating ETSA it would be found in their blood"
If LA PD somehow put EDTA in these blood samples they sure as hell did a pretty piss poor job.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 4:24 pm to OMLandshark
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Barry has gone on record saying that he thinks OJ is guilty BTW.
Um, I'm going to need you to provide a link to this or GTFO.
You have continued to display a painful unawareness of anything resembling legal knowledge throughout this thread, most notably what a judge can or cannot allow or disallow in the course of a trial.
You are the epitome of what the prosecution criticized the defense for making the jurors do, which is be led by emotion rather than any sense reason or understanding of the information presented as a whole. But worse, you have the all too common misguided idea of being informed.
You have shown nothing but irrational emotion throughout this thread and attack anyone who mentions the holes and information that may lead an impartial thinker to reasonable doubt, not innocence, although I have no doubt you are clueless as to the nuance that differentiates the two.
So please, if this is actually true, which I highly doubt, then provide the link where Scheck went "on the record" saying he "thinks OJ is guilty", so that I can at least scratch dishonesty, or at least willful ignorance, off of the list of ways you've embarrassed yourself in this thread. Thanks.
ETA: Man, this series was fantastic. I'm hoping it cleans up at the Emmys. What a great job they did capturing the mood and atmosphere surrounding the trial both in and out of the courtroom.
I really wish they would do the civil trial in the second season. Although I think they're moving on to something completely different.
Watching the Duke 30 for 30 made me think that would be a great subject for a future season as well.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 4:58 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Did one of the jurors really do a black power sign after OJ was acquitted?
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