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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)

Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:12 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:12 am to
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most notably: it takes a 3 stage rocket to get the ship off of Earth, then it just hops off the 1.3g planet (that they never should have landed on in the first place) with little effort. Nolan could have at least invented some kind of new rocket drive to keep it consistent


Yeah, that bugged me so much. It took a huge Saturn V style three stage rocket to escape Earth's gravity, yet they can go to a planet with 30% more gravity than earth and fly right off, from water like a plane.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:13 am to
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regarding that first planet, wouldn't any signal coming from it be so badly redshifted that they would know everything down there is fricked, even from Earth? They should have known that planet was hopeless and just kept going.



time was so slow on that planet, that the people who died on it, had literally just died.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:13 am to
Must have because the son was driving the same dogge truck 20 years later
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:15 am to
What an incredible experience that was last night. I walked out with my nerves all hyped up but didn't get a chance to post in this thread last night.

I will highly recommend this to most people, but would like to hear how your traditional moviegoer types like it. I don't think it was too deep or thought provoking, but some folks just won't get it because it isn't twilight or hunger games.

Anyway, I was also confused on Cooper in the 5th dimension and how he relayed info to Murph in the past. I was hoping he wasn't going to be manipulating anything with her until after the timeframe when he left on the mission. Obviously the watch code was present time for both him and old Murph but pushing the books off the shelf technically happened before he went on the mission.

Hell I am just confusing myself further.

I don't read too much into the scientific theory stuff on whether this could have happened or not, because no one really fricking knows. It's like he said something about no one knows what it is like to die until they're dead, then they keep that information to themselves.
Posted by AngryBeavers
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:16 am to
It sounded to me like Lithgow was born in the 80's or 90's the way he talked about new technology being built all the time. There is no more military because it sounds like there was some kind of big war that decimated the population of the planet.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:16 am to
Look, we can rip this movie for all kind of stuff, but let's not do that please. I really enjoyed it and want to believe what I watched.
Posted by baytiger
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:17 am to
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time was so slow on that planet, that the people who died on it, had literally just died.


yes, I'm aware, and that doesn't matter to my argument at all
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:21 am to
OK, I can ask my big unanswered question now.

**Spoilers**










What was the origin of the wormhole? We're told "they" (someone/-thing) put it there, and later McConaughey figures out that "they" is "us;" i.e., he sent the message to himself to find NASA for the first time, he sent the message to his daughter, etc. But if that's the case, then how did the wormhole get there in the first place? They couldn't have been to the other worlds (with other dimensions) without traveling through the wormhole to get there.

I hope that makes sense.
Posted by AngryBeavers
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:24 am to
Humans in the distant future are 5th dimensional beings that created the worm hole. At least that's how I interpreted it.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:25 am to
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I was hoping he wasn't going to be manipulating anything with her until after the timeframe when he left on the mission. Obviously the watch code was present time for both him and old Murph but pushing the books off the shelf technically happened before he went on the mission.


Every possible moment in that room from creation to destruction was accessible in the tesseract. He could of manipulated something in the room as soon as the house was built or on the day it was torn down. Every second that ever happened or will happen he was able to interact with if he found the right moment.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:27 am to
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Look, we can rip this movie for all kind of stuff, but let's not do that please. I really enjoyed it and want to believe what I watched.


I know the feeling. When I was a kid I was pissed off that my dad couldn't make a time machine out of our car after I saw the original BTTF in the theaters.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:28 am to
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yes, I'm aware, and that doesn't matter to my argument at all



I guess you missed some parts there, because it DOES matter to your argument. You just aren't thinking fourth dimensionaly.

Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:31 am to
Has anyone mentioned how AWESOME the docking scene was?! That was so intense! And I'm pretty sure the score just immersed you into the scene (I can't know for sure, because I was beside myself at that point ).
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:32 am to
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What was the origin of the wormhole? We're told "they" (someone/-thing) put it there, and later McConaughey figures out that "they" is "us;" i.e., he sent the message to himself to find NASA for the first time, he sent the message to his daughter, etc. But if that's the case, then how did the wormhole get there in the first place? They couldn't have been to the other worlds (with other dimensions) without traveling through the wormhole to get there.

I hope that makes sense.


It wasn't explained. A theory in the movie is that "they" put it there. Another theory is that "we" put it there. To do this the time travel would have to be like Terminator rules, were the past can be acted on without immediately changing everything in the future.
But if future humans created the wormhole, then how did they get to the point to even be able to leave earth if no one created the worm hole for them?

Unless in knowing that in the future they planned to make a wormhole, that would cause a wormhole to appear.. Yeah the McConaughey theory is confusing.


A third theory left to be made up by the viewers is that the wormhole was created by the singularity. Which could explain why a giant black hole is on the other side of the wormhole.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:34 am to
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Humans in the distant future are 5th dimensional beings that created the worm hole. At least that's how I interpreted it.


The "Stargate" theory. We 'ascended' in the future, or maybe that even a past evolution of humans that ascended to the next plane helped us.
I get that theory was put out there, but too many holes in it for me.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:34 am to
this is why this movie is so great.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:35 am to
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It sounded to me like Lithgow was born in the 80's or 90's the way he talked about new technology being built all the time. There is no more military because it sounds like there was some kind of big war that decimated the population of the planet.



McConaughey had to of been born during or after the war, as he talked about when he was a kid, having to fight for food.

We assume the story is in middle america, but we really have no idea.
Must be pretty far in the future to have Indian drones be considered so advanced to a NASA pilot.
Posted by AngryBeavers
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:39 am to
I like how Cooper had no interest in meeting his grandkids and great grandkids after seeing old Murph. They didn't seem to be real interested in talking to him either.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 9:40 am to
They're probably in their 50s. I would have thought people would have been a little happier to see him
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