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re: The Official Comic Book Villain Tournament (Round IV) Voting Open!

Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:09 am to
Round IV Bracket

Match #1
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #2
place #1: Magneto
place #2: Darth Vader
Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephistto
Match #4
place #1: General Zod
place #2: Thanos


This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8625 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:25 am to
What are you're choices.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:41 am to
Was just reading what everyone wrote before I decided.............
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Match #1
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #2
place #1: Magneto
place #2: Darth Vader
Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephistto
Match #4
place #1: General Zod
place #2: Thanos


Mephisto wins against Darkseid because LINK

and Mephisto can just teleport Darkseid to his realm.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by stegs_81
Baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
211 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:47 am to
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse

Just personal, I have always thought the Apocalypse character was lame.

Match #2
place #1: Magneto
place #2: Darth Vader

Not even close IMO.

Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephistto

Omega effect wipes Mephistto away with a quickness.

Match #4
place #1: General Zod
place #2: Thanos

I arrive here via the transitive property. I see Thanos as a weaker Darkseid, and Darkseid has been defeated by Kryptonians in the past.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12046 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Match #1
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse

Match #2
place #1: Magneto
place #2: Darth Vader

Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephistto

Match #4
place #1: General Zod
place #2: Thanos
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14418 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:


place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse

Just personal, I have always thought the Apocalypse character was lame.



Mr. stegs_81, what you've just posted... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12046 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Mr. stegs_81, what you've just posted... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul...




but on a serious note: this is one thing that can suck about the tournament. someone can just come in and post an obvious troll vote.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Just personal, I have always thought the Apocalypse character was lame.


Followed up with Zod over Thanos. (What is the SMH emoticon so I can start doing it)
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11319 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:53 am to
: casty :

Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14418 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

but on a serious note: this is one thing that can suck about the tournament. someone can just come in and post an obvious troll vote.


Exactly! At least play a more subtle troll like saying Superman could beat Hulk one on one.

You and I know that's ludicrous but you can rope a lot of people in on that one.

Since I posted twice, I should go ahead and vote here.

Match #1
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse

Match #2
place #1: Magneto
place #2: Darth Vader

Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephistto

Match #4
place #1: General Zod
place #2: Thanos


I really like the Zod/Thanos matchup but the Darkseid/Mephisto one kind of blows. Mephisto probably shouldn't have been in this tourney in the first place but Mr. Sinister and Cyclops are sitting home playing spades so this is all meaningless anyway.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:30 pm to
Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephistto

I'm still on the fence with this one. Any particular reason why you chose Mephisto?
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35260 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:32 pm to
Mephisto loses most of his power outside of his realm.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14418 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

I'm still on the fence with this one. Any particular reason why you chose Mephisto?


This is where I kind of lose interest in tourney's. Mephisto has always been depicted as a version of the Devil himself. He's the fricking Devil. Darkseid may be a "New God" but Mephisto is an OG.

I love Darkseid but if I'm being honest, based on my reading history, that's how it plays out to me.


ETA:

quote:

Mephisto loses most of his power outside of his realm.


I have too much ADD to go Freaux on this but, while you are correct, Mephisto is still the type of villain you have to trick or find some magical deus ex machina to beat.

Like a Mystxplyk. Basically Mephisto has as much place here as him. imo of course.

Darkseid can be physically beaten. It may take Superman and Batmans file cabinet combined to do it, but it can be done.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:41 pm to
Yup. One of the reasons I'm on the fence. This and the argument that Mephisto gets his powers from evil, thus he would just absorb Darkseid's evil and be stronger doesn't jive from what've read in comics and online. He gets his powers from those that worship him. There is a difference to me.

In Mephisto's realm, he wins. On Apokolips, Darkseid wins. On a neutral ground, it's pretty damn close.

Oh, and Black Panther once beat up on Mephisto one on one...
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14418 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Oh, and Black Panther once beat up on Mephisto one on one...


This is why I'm enraged that we don't have a Black Panther movie yet!
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35260 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:44 pm to
Pre Crisis Darkseid was RIDICULOUSLY powerful. I mean like moving planets and shite. There's no proof that Mephisto even has super speed like Darkseid. There's no way he can absorb enough power outside of his realm to defeat a pre crisis Darkseid.

ETA: Freaux is a great debater and Mephisto is an awesome villain, but don't let the smokescreen fool you. And if we're talkin about the Devil, he was cast out by an Archangel. Not even a God.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4584 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:59 pm to
Match #1
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #2
place #1: Magneto
place #2: Darth Vader
Match #3
place #1: Darkseid
place #2: Mephisto
Match #4
place #1: General Zod
place #2: Thanos
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Mephisto loses most of his power outside of his realm.


This. Is. Not. True.

Their are stories where he is a wimp. There are stories where Darkseid is a wimp. There are stories where Flash could only go 740mph. It happens.

We are using Mephisto's weakest time against Darkseid's strongest. That's dumb and unfair.

The OP clearly states:
quote:

7.) Each character will be considered to be at their peak with no additional augmentation.


Omega Beams have little effect on non-organisms/something not made of matter. Their strength's are EQUAL, and Mephisto has magic and all kinds of tools. He can do "whatever the human mind can comprehend and more" through magic.

Mephisto has a significant advantage.

Somehow though, your narrative took hold, and it's a bit ridiculous seeing as:
LINK

List all of Mephisto's statistcs as 7's. 7 speed. 7 Strength, 7 intelligence. 7 Power. Etc.

Now Darkseid won when he shouldn't have. There's no need to yell bias in any of these threads anymore.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

don't let the smokescreen fool you


Worry not true believer! I've been reading, collecting, dealing with the comics for a long time. I take everyone's opinion and advice into consideration, added to what I know, and pick.
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