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re: The Last of Us S1 EP6 "Kin" - NO GAMER TALK!

Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:13 pm to
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My thing with that is that even though he's showing these signs, he was still ok with passing her off to Tommy. He did not have a I'm going to see this until the end mentality, whether it be because there was a fear of failure or not.



I think he absolutely has a fear of failure because of what happened with his own daughter. Fear, and PTSD as a result (which he definitely has), can compound that response. He couldn't save his daughter. He couldn't save Tess. He has a very real fear of protecting the people he cares about. It makes a lot of sense in that context.

Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:22 pm to
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My thing with that is that even though he's showing these signs, he was still ok with passing her off to Tommy. He did not have a I'm going to see this until the end mentality, whether it be because there was a fear of failure or not.

Your interpretation is off. It's because he was showing those signs that he became ok with passing Ellie off to Tommy. If she was only cargo to him, passing her off would be the last thing he'd do.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:46 pm to
I think episode 3 was great as a single episode of television, but I can agree that right now I don’t yet see what larger point it serves in the overall story. While I disagree with many who say it didn’t push the plot forward at all, I do think there could have been other methods to push the plot forward in the same/similar way. All that said though, I still think it was an excellent episode, with great acting and solid writing.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 5:47 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 6:49 pm to
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I like to watch for attention to details on the set. When Joel was in his Wyoming bedroom, look at the chest of drawers.
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I missed it, what was it?

The dresser was missing a drawer.

It seems like a small thing, but it is emblematic of the world that they live in. At some point, probably after the outbreak, that drawer broke. Even in the most-civilized settlement that we have seen, it was not pristine.

They could not go buy another dresser, and didn’t have the milling equipment and other resources to replace the drawer, so now there is a chest of drawers in that bedroom, just missing a drawer.

Attention to detail.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 7:10 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:32 pm to
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I think he absolutely has a fear of failure because of what happened with his own daughter. Fear, and PTSD as a result (which he definitely has), can compound that response. He couldn't save his daughter. He couldn't save Tess. He has a very real fear of protecting the people he cares about.


How I see it too, even with Tess..when she was about to end it and was saying to him things like "you never felt the way I wanted", etc. Was him not allowing himself to care about someone else on THAT level. Cause he did care about her, and also understood the world he was in and what he lost to get there.

Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:34 pm to
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but I can agree that right now I don’t yet see what larger point it serves in the overall story.
because it helps create an overall story.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:39 pm to
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Because the show isn't that good.
disagree, its been a solid adaptation.
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and months of travel are just skipped.

Good, remember what happens when we have 8-13 extra walking dead filler-travel episodes?

This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
4397 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:28 pm to
I had high hopes but this series is flat out boring. They made Joel overly emotional and weak. The harrowing infected encounters in tunnels, buildings, university are completely removed in favor of pointless conversations and interactions. Episodes are mostly filler. It's a version of LoU with its nuts cut off. I'm out.
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4083 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:49 pm to
Ha! You think this version of tlou has it's nuts cut off? Wait until season 2 You'll really Hate the show. Neil druckmann is about as woke as you can get and it's disgusting. frick that guy.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2023 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:27 pm to
Druckmann is a frickin bum. The Chernobyl guys are the only reason the show is watchable.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 11:39 pm to
I’ve held on so far but I’m done. That last episode was so bad it’s mind blowing. Btw where can I hunt some rabbits that’ll have me weighing 400lbs like the couple they met? Those two must be deep frying 10lbs of rabbit a day.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 12:33 am to
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Btw where can I hunt some rabbits that’ll have me weighing 400lbs like the couple they met?
even you would probably able to kill large and small game after 20 years of unchecked animal population
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 12:45 am to
Halle Berry had a baby at 50.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3411 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:06 am to
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Halle Berry had a baby at 50.


Great example! I'm sure her wealth, access to the finest ivf doctors and mfms had absolutely nothing to do with that outcome. Just a 100% natural spontaneous baby in the prime of her life.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:03 am to
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Great example! I'm sure her wealth, access to the finest ivf doctors and mfms had absolutely nothing to do with that outcome. Just a 100% natural spontaneous baby in the prime of her life.

So much ignorance in one post. My sister had a child at 51. She's a Jr accountant.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:34 am to
Having a baby in your late 40s in a last of us scenario might be dumber than executing a doctor or choosing a 2WD S10 as your doomsday prepper vehicle

Still really enjoying the show though. Look forward to it every week

ETA: any criticisms of the show, no matter how light hearted, are met with instant DVs
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 8:57 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:36 am to
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I’ve held on so far but I’m done


see you next week
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99259 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:49 am to
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see you next week


We could only be so lucky if the ones that say they’re done or hate this show were actually done.

I have no desire to watch them walk around and do nothing but kill fungus monsters for a couple of straight episodes. If I wanted that kind of filler, I’d just play the game. This is a TV show.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25382 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:07 am to
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This is a TV show.
One I look forward to each week. Having no idea of the game, I see it for what it is and have no expectations for what it's not (the game)

It seems many of the naysayers are familiar with the game and not sure the two will ever coexistent just like Game of Thrones books readers versus the show watchers.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4529 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:14 am to
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because it helps create an overall story.



Yeah I think I need to rethink my view of the show as each episode being completely linear and thinking of each episode more as a collective to a broader story.
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