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The Death of "Superman Lives": What Happened?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:05 am
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:05 am
They shut down Superman Lives to make Wild Wild West with Will Smith.
Probably one of the worst decisions by a studio ever.
Awesome Documentary. Any comic book fan should check it out.
Anyone else think we got robbed of an awesome movie?
The storyline and the concept art are amazing.
Sucks that Tim Burton made two awesome Batman movies, and then Joel Schumacher raped his vision.
Then he got the chance to make a cool arse Superman movie and the studios killed it.
Probably one of the worst decisions by a studio ever.
Awesome Documentary. Any comic book fan should check it out.
Anyone else think we got robbed of an awesome movie?
The storyline and the concept art are amazing.
Sucks that Tim Burton made two awesome Batman movies, and then Joel Schumacher raped his vision.
Then he got the chance to make a cool arse Superman movie and the studios killed it.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 7:21 am
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:35 am to Breesus
they were going to overload camp and pre-Xmen concepts on comic book movies in an era moving away from camp quickly and moving to the Xmen-style realism in comic book movies. i think it would have been one of the biggest flops in history
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:37 am to Breesus
quote:
Sucks that Tim Burton made two awesome Batman movies,
Surely you're not calling Batman Returns "awesome"
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:15 am to Breesus
Not sure how Burton's vision and Nic Cage would've translated, but it's a wildly enertaining doc that I've watched like five times. Jon Peters seemed a horrible prick for those guys to work for.
"He finally got his frickin spider."
"He finally got his frickin spider."
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Yep. Much like Miami Vice, Burton's aesthetic was awesome but belonged to a very specific time.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:39 am to Breesus
I watch the director, John Schnepp, almost everyday on Collider Movie Talk. He is hilarious and a huge comic book nerd. He coined the term "sweaty" for a huge comic book nerd, calling himself one often.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:39 am to Breesus
I have yet to see the documentary, but I remember following this closely when it was happening and dreading what was coming. It was a terribly conceived idea that would've undermined the Superman legacy. When they turned down the awesome Kevin Smith script which had Brainiac as the main baddie, they downfall of that movie had begun.
Now once I finally see this doc I may change my mind. Maybe the stories I was reading at the time were not very accurate.
Now once I finally see this doc I may change my mind. Maybe the stories I was reading at the time were not very accurate.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:48 am to Breesus
Guilty pleasure. You suck, breesus.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:48 am to Breesus
Honestly that movie looked terrible, IMO. Maybe as a parody like Hot Shots it would've worked.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:50 am to Breesus
This doc isn't on Netflix, is it?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:53 am to Breesus
Wild Wild West is one of the best movies ever. The world doesn't need the 100th crappy superman movie. Sounds like a great decision to me
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:34 am to Breesus
I remember this movie being in pre-production with some leaked photos of the proposed suit and some sketches. I'm a Superman fan, and I wasn't thrilled with the look at all. Think Edward Scissorhands wearing a black Superman suit. It's the type of movie that would have had a great first weekend and then fall off big time afterwards (very little repeat business).
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:38 am to Breesus
im not if it would have worked out for the studio. but its really hard to argue that it wouldnt have made money when all the horrible batman movies still turned a profit.
it probably wouldve been a movie we look back on and say "how the frick did this get made," instead of "thank God they didnt make this."
the doc is amazing. you should check out Kevin Smith retelling this story at a comic con panel a decade ago. its pretty much how he explains it on the documentary but it just seems more raw when he was on stage spilling it to the fans and not for a documentary. KS also wrote the script in a weekend. so who knows how good the actual script was.
it probably wouldve been a movie we look back on and say "how the frick did this get made," instead of "thank God they didnt make this."
the doc is amazing. you should check out Kevin Smith retelling this story at a comic con panel a decade ago. its pretty much how he explains it on the documentary but it just seems more raw when he was on stage spilling it to the fans and not for a documentary. KS also wrote the script in a weekend. so who knows how good the actual script was.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is what worries me about the Batman v Superman movie. The industry is going for more fun, colorful, and playful incarnations of comic movies. It always seems like WB is one step behind with Superman. Not to say that I personally am not excited about BvS, but it may be setting up to fail with the majority of audiences.
they were going to overload camp and pre-Xmen concepts on comic book movies in an era moving away from camp quickly and moving to the Xmen-style realism in comic book movies. i think it would have been one of the biggest flops in history
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:34 am to Breesus
quote:
Anyone else think we got robbed of an awesome movie?
No...nope, uh uh.
That being said, I still do love the idea of Kevin Smith being involved in some way with a comic movie, but the studio and that asshat who wanted a giant spider were going to tie his hands so badly that nothing he'd have written was going to work for that.
Honestly...that would have been such a fricking train wreck we may never have gotten the current wave of superhero flicks...
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:36 am to Breesus
Superman Lives would've been a shitty movie that took liberties with the Superman concept and used the worst aspects of the 90's comic Superman (mullet, silly costumes).
We'd be looking back at it with nostalgia as we look back at Scharzenegger's Mr. Freeze and Clooney's Bat-Nipples.
Something great to look back at, but at the time of release it would've been a movie making money off of the Superman and Burton names only.
You also had that studio interference that would've assured a less than par Burton product.
We'd be looking back at it with nostalgia as we look back at Scharzenegger's Mr. Freeze and Clooney's Bat-Nipples.
Something great to look back at, but at the time of release it would've been a movie making money off of the Superman and Burton names only.
You also had that studio interference that would've assured a less than par Burton product.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:37 am to Breesus
The doc is pretty biased and tells you 80 times that this would've been the GOAT movie but honestly it looked like complete shite
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:47 am to BlacknGold
quote:
the doc is amazing. you should check out Kevin Smith retelling this story at a comic con panel a decade ago. its pretty much how he explains it on the documentary but it just seems more raw when he was on stage spilling it to the fans and not for a documentary. KS also wrote the script in a weekend. so who knows how good the actual script was.
Here it is...
LINK
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:22 pm to Breesus
Thank god that movie never made it to production let alone an actual theater.
It would've set back the comic book movie genre at least a decade.
It would've set back the comic book movie genre at least a decade.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:40 pm to Breesus
Movie would have sucked. Superman's childhood friend/robot (aka twiki from Buck Rogers) transforms into his uniform allowing him to fly and emulate the powers he's lost? Floating alien spacecraft in the shape of a human skull helmed by a robot spider?
It would have been like watching GI Joe for the first time and never getting past the mute ninja with black rubber lips X100000000
BATNIPPLES!!
It would have been like watching GI Joe for the first time and never getting past the mute ninja with black rubber lips X100000000
BATNIPPLES!!
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