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re: The Curse of Oak Island
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:16 am to hawkster
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:16 am to hawkster
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It reminds me of a dramatic version of another island show with ridiculous close calls and far-fetched scenarios week after week, but Gilligan was more likable than these guys.
That was a pretty good line.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:22 am to upgrade
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Where did they find out that 7 people would die before the mystery is revealed?
I know this predates the show, but I'm uncertain of its origin.
It's funny to watch Gold Rush where they'll tear 6 football field sized swaths out of the landscape 60' deep with massive equipment like D11 bulldozers and then watch Oak Island where they'll rent the most rinky-dink crane trucks known to man and just stare down a rusty shaft like "Hmmm, if only humans had made machines capable of digging that out. Oh well."
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:00 am to upgrade
The legends come from a stone tablet that some boys found in the 1800s. They explain the history in the first episode.
As for why they can't just dig up the whole island, the Canadian government has evironmental laws that restrict what they can do. Plus it would be really expensive and I don't think anyone wants to gamble that kind of money on a legend.
As for why they can't just dig up the whole island, the Canadian government has evironmental laws that restrict what they can do. Plus it would be really expensive and I don't think anyone wants to gamble that kind of money on a legend.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:56 pm to BluegrassBelle
I wonder how they are paying for all this. One of the brothers and his friend are in the energy business, which of course has suffered a major downturn. Likely the History Channel is funding a major portion though.
I hope they find something significant. I would hate to have the show end with nothing, great loss for them and a big disappointment. Might make me swear off reality shows.
I hope they find something significant. I would hate to have the show end with nothing, great loss for them and a big disappointment. Might make me swear off reality shows.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:12 am to Tigertracks
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I would hate to have the show end with nothing, great loss for them and a big disappointment. Might make me swear off reality shows.
I don't expect them to, but that doesn't change my appreciation for the show. I just like the Oak Island story and mystery so I enjoy anything to do with it. If you had told me that they'd make a show where they'd actually go dig on Oak Island back when I first saw the January 18, 1979 Oak Island episode of the third season of In Search Of... with Leonard Nemoy, I would have done backflips.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:41 am to Cooter Davenport
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It's funny to watch Gold Rush where they'll tear 6 football field sized swaths out of the landscape 60' deep with massive equipment like D11 bulldozers and then watch Oak Island where they'll rent the most rinky-dink crane trucks known to man and just stare down a rusty shaft like "Hmmm, if only humans had made machines capable of digging that out. Oh well."
They're apparently fairly staunch on their restrictions. I know during the marathon I was watching there was one episode where they were concerned the local government was going to essentially shutdown excavation all together.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:10 am to hawkster
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If they shortened every episode to one half the time
I haven't started this season - I did find the first season interesting, even though I was fascinated by the mystery as a kid. But, over time, the producing/editing has gotten quite repetitive. I agree with you that the episode run time is too long and they have to really work to fill it.
As for other criticism - I like the history sidebars - even if most of them are hokey and scripted to fill time. I mean, I can enjoy the first few seasons of Pawn Stars and still like the occasional American Picker show - at least this show has a legitimate history - of the legend and obsession it has inspired, if nothing else - and I do believe I have some of it figured out - and part of it is due to this show coming on.
The offshore work - the box drains - almost certainly they were part of an illegal salt works. The balance of it - maybe someone did try (or succeed) to bury something of value there. The rest of it is due to the fairly unique nature of the island's geography and topography - soft limestone that dissolves when exposed to water - the island is probably slowly disintegrating. When someone goes to dig - anywhere on there - they encounter the same problem - they hit these voids, the hole floods and collapses.
Rinse - repeat, literally.
I will be intrigued by anything they find there that was buried by man before any of the known explorations began.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:12 am to Ace Midnight
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The rest of it is due to the fairly unique nature of the island's geography and topography - soft limestone that dissolves when exposed to water - the island is probably slowly disintegrating. When someone goes to dig - anywhere on there - they encounter the same problem - they hit these voids, the hole floods and collapses.
This has been my belief since I was a kid. The island is known to be made of limestone. Limestone dissolves to form cavities and tunnels pretty much everywhere it is found. The mainland opposite the island is known to be full of such naturally occurring cavities. I think that through the years, fueled by the legend, people have dug holes out there, intersected natural cavities, assumed they were man-made caves for hiding something due to confirmation bias, found objects in them because trees and other debris had fallen in at some point in the past due to sinkholes (another limestone phenomenon), and assumed these were objects that were placed there intentionally, again due to confirmation bias.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:18 am to Cooter Davenport
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It's funny to watch Gold Rush where they'll tear 6 football field sized swaths out of the landscape 60' deep with massive equipment like D11 bulldozers and then watch Oak Island where they'll rent the most rinky-dink crane trucks known to man and just stare down a rusty shaft like "Hmmm, if only humans had made machines capable of digging that out. Oh well."
I'm certain the Canadian government is restricting their ability to excavate.
The question I've always had is, how much is the History Channel kicking in towards the cost of the project.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:36 am to Erin Go Bragh
I think the wealthy brother is financing a lot of it himself. The paperwork is in his name. Although a good deal of the show is staged, I think his enthusiasm for the mystery in general is real. I think that History flies in the various con-men and "experts" whose flights of fancy derail the narrative and pays for the work involved in exploring their theories - as this is largely what gives History enough material to air a season of hour-long episodes - and sponsored the Europe trip. I think the brothers pay for the exploration of the money pit and the boreholes themselves as that's mostly what they'd do if it wasn't for the need to create material for a TV show.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:02 am to Cooter Davenport
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I think the wealthy brother is financing a lot of it himself.
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I think that History flies in the various con-men and "experts" whose flights of fancy derail the narrative and pays for the work involved in exploring their theories -
Yea, I think you're right on both counts but the brothers have to be receiving some compensation as well. I recall reading where the Duck Dynasty family was receiving more than $200,000 a week and that they distributed the funds among the family members.
I don't believe the Oak Island people could demand anything approaching what the Duck people were receiving but any kind of compensation would help lessen the the costs of the dig.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
I can hardly watch it now. After you've seen a few episodes, it nearly becomes unwatchable. It's ashamed because it's an intriguing mystery.
Every new episode is 15 minutes of new footage, 1/2 of which is them sitting around the "war room." Everything else you've already seen, they re-show the same footage over and over. The style in which they edit, film, etc. is nauseating. All the old footage is plagued with V-hold and static bullshite. I'm about to give up and just wait 5 years and google if they found anything.
Every new episode is 15 minutes of new footage, 1/2 of which is them sitting around the "war room." Everything else you've already seen, they re-show the same footage over and over. The style in which they edit, film, etc. is nauseating. All the old footage is plagued with V-hold and static bullshite. I'm about to give up and just wait 5 years and google if they found anything.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:59 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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Yea, I think you're right on both counts but the brothers have to be receiving some compensation as well. I recall reading where the Duck Dynasty family was receiving more than $200,000 a week and that they distributed the funds among the family members.
They're definitely getting a check just for general compensation for being actors on the show and allowing filming on their island.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:09 am to Cooter Davenport
Anyone still watching? The last episode was quite a dead end. Still not sure if there's anything special on this island.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 8:21 am to RidiculousHype
Yeah, I think that last episode killed the show for me. Basically starting at square one again after 3 seasons.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:17 am to Captain Fantasy
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Yeah, I think that last episode killed the show for me. Basically starting at square one again after 3 seasons.
I just hope they have some surprises coming up soon - I've been reading about Oak Island for over 10 years and it would be awesome if they found a smoking gun.
If they find something important, will we read about it on Drudge first? Or is there some sort of embargo?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:03 pm to RidiculousHype
Hole 10x a real disappointment, nothing there apparently. They have systematically checked every theory brought to them and found them all to be interesting, but ultimately empty promises. It looks like the only thing left is to try to find out if there is anything in the money pit vault...or even if there is a vault at all. But i am enjoying the show, fun to see someone live out a quest held since childhood.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So do these guys actually find anything of note?
SPOILER ALERT
No
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