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re: The Avengers vs Man of Steel
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:27 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:27 pm to theunknownknight
Thor wasn't very good. So if MoS is just another Thor movie than I'd rather save my money.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:36 pm to toughcrittercrumb
It is much better than Thor. It is a much better movie than the Avengers. Much more resonant.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:41 pm to theunknownknight
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It makes no sense
Im going with - it was close to top tier but fell short?
That's the way I felt when I walked out of MoS. It was very confusing for me. I've never LOVED and HATED a movie so much while watching it in the theater.
The first time i was bothered by the editing in the begining but loved the movie. The second time the editing didnt bother me at all and loved it even more. I would watch it again see how you feel. I still don't think it was as good as any of the movies in the TDK trilogy, but i really like what they have started with this.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:11 pm to jeff5891
1) Thor premise was pretty awesome and Supes is a lot like Thor.
2) No, this movie and Thor's tone do not match up.Thor had a lot more humor in it.
Again, as I have said, people who have a problem with MoS are typically one married to the thought that Donner's Superman = the perfect interpretation of Superman.
I prefer the more sci-i elements of Superman, less earnest. He can still be the symbol of hope with internal conflict. If he were the Big Blue Boy Scout,he'd be boring. For years, comic fans have used that against reading his stuff. It's despite his own outsider feel that he is the symbol. Furthermore, this paves the way for a much more interesting universe and a more interesting Superman down the line.
2) No, this movie and Thor's tone do not match up.Thor had a lot more humor in it.
Again, as I have said, people who have a problem with MoS are typically one married to the thought that Donner's Superman = the perfect interpretation of Superman.
I prefer the more sci-i elements of Superman, less earnest. He can still be the symbol of hope with internal conflict. If he were the Big Blue Boy Scout,he'd be boring. For years, comic fans have used that against reading his stuff. It's despite his own outsider feel that he is the symbol. Furthermore, this paves the way for a much more interesting universe and a more interesting Superman down the line.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:41 pm to Tactical1
Ironman is the only thing that makes Marvel good right now. Captain America was a piece of crap, Thor was poorly written and edited and no one has been able to make a successful Hulk movie. Ironman is basically the Avengers Wolverine. Wolverine is the only reason the X-men movies have done so well, they even had to give him a cameo in First Class. Ironman is the same way, he's the only one most people keep coming back for.
As far as MoS, I was disappointed with the first hour. It was rushed and poorly edited, but it was still much better than Captain America, The Incredible Hulk and Thor.
As far as MoS, I was disappointed with the first hour. It was rushed and poorly edited, but it was still much better than Captain America, The Incredible Hulk and Thor.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:50 pm to Dchris8
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As far as MoS, I was disappointed with the first hour. It was rushed and poorly edited, but it was still much better than Captain America, The Incredible Hulk and Thor.
sexy beast
Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:56 pm to theunknownknight
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sexy beast
Right back at ya. Dchris8 is only temporary until my SoftServe account becomes active.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:02 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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So if MoS is just another Thor movie than I'd rather save my money.
It's a good bit better than Thor and the other Marvel phase one movies. I don't get how someone thinks Captain America or Thor was better than MoS. Iron Man would be the only one that I would possibly consider better.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:16 pm to Dchris8
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Wolverine is the only reason the X-men movies have done so well, they even had to give him a cameo in First Class.
Because the only thing people remember about X Men First Class is the Wolverine cameo.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:29 pm to Tactical1
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Because the only thing people remember about X Men First Class is the Wolverine cameo.
point is that he is the only one who can successfully stand alone in his own movie. Who's going to go see a movie all about Storm or cyclops or even Prof X. And the fact that Wolverine has a new movie coming out this summer that sets up for the next X-men is enough proof for me that he is the character that most people want to see. After all, the new X-men is about time traveling so all of the characters can be together...including wolverine.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:42 pm to EthanL
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This movie paid a price, from a critic standpoint, but will pave the way for a great future and franchise.
Nope. There is no backstory now. Lois knows who he is. Zod is dead, as is Jonathan Kent. Metropolis is in ruins
It will have to be all out carnage
Very boring, and likely on the list of worst sequels of all time
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:43 pm to Dchris8
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point is that he is the only one who can successfully stand alone in his own movie. Who's going to go see a movie all about Storm or cyclops or even Prof X. And the fact that Wolverine has a new movie coming out this summer that sets up for the next X-men is enough proof for me that he is the character that most people want to see. After all, the new X-men is about time traveling so all of the characters can be together...including wolverine.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:37 pm to theunknownknight
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MoS > TDKR
Most movies are better than DKR. It's a bad, bad movie
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:55 pm to Dchris8
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point is that he is the only one who can successfully stand alone in his own movie. Who's going to go see a movie all about Storm or cyclops or even Prof X. And the fact that Wolverine has a new movie coming out this summer that sets up for the next X-men is enough proof for me that he is the character that most people want to see. After all, the new X-men is about time traveling so all of the characters can be together...including wolverine.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:55 pm to Freauxzen
quote:Nail on the head. Anyone arguing against this doesn't know what the hell they are talkin about. A comic book movie should be done with intense drama along with great action and the heroic figure truimph. But should have humor injected in it to let folks know that this is a comic fantasy and not to be taken seriously like the idiot in Colorado who murdered all those innocents.
Simply put: Superman takes itself far too seriously, and tries to be more than it is. Avengers doesn't.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 5:18 pm to EthanL
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It was ridiculous. The premise (zero crime in Gotham) the plan (to blow up Gotham via an energy source turned nuke LOL) and the way to stop it all (a guy who just broke his back 2 months earlier)
Sounds like the standard dilemma you see in most comic book movies.
At the end of the day, it was still just a summer popcorn flick. Yeah...it took itself more seriously than most other films in the same genre but it was never meant to be anything more than a superhero film.
I will never get people who try to hold Nolan's Batman films to a higher standard than the Marvel films.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 5:54 pm to TK421
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I'm facebook friends with people that thought Captain America was awesome. What do you even say to these people?
If you start hating on Captain America, I will cut you.
But in all seriousness, Disney and WB are going for two totally different tones with their superhero franchises. Disney will also be that "lighter" PG-13 because the House of Mouse is a family friendly company. They ALWAYS want positivity in their movies. It works for them and their characters. I love these kind of movies.
WB on the other hand is more of a "harder" PG-13 company. Their audiences trend older. While they still want your early teens, and pre-teens, they really don't care if you can't bring your 8 year old. They are more emotional with their movies. They want to give you a sense of real danger, of real sacrifice. They'll give you a positive ending, but not without sacrifice, not without loss. This really fits their characters. I love these kinds of movies too.
There is no one size fits all for these movies. Each company has their direction they want to take and I for one welcome the different takes. Sony walks the line with TASM which I like, not too bleak, but not too jolly good time.
I just wish Fox would learn from this. I truly believe that if they let these X-Men franchises wrap up, wait a little bit, and then go full-fledged reboot with a thought out plan with completely new casts with one big overseer, they can have their own super-success.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:26 pm to tubucoco
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But should have humor injected in it to let folks know that this is a comic fantasy and not to be taken seriously like the idiot in Colorado who murdered all those innocents.
We now know why you're not a script writer. I think they're doing fine without you.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:50 pm to tubucoco
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Nail on the head. Anyone arguing against this doesn't know what the hell they are talkin about. A comic book movie should be done with intense drama along with great action and the heroic figure truimph. But should have humor injected in it to let folks know that this is a comic fantasy and not to be taken seriously like the idiot in Colorado who murdered all those innocents.
Did you seriously put this part in there with that?
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But should have humor injected in it to let folks know that this is a comic fantasy and not to be taken seriously like the idiot in Colorado who murdered all those innocents.
What the frick?
I can't take anything else you say in this thread seriously now.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Can't compare these 2 movies, one is a culmination of several movies while MoS was the beginning.
FWIW I enjoyed MoS more then any of Marvels single character movies.
FWIW I enjoyed MoS more then any of Marvels single character movies.
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