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Star Wars Fan theory: Jar Jar is the supreme Sith overlord throughout all films
Posted on 11/3/15 at 6:48 am
Posted on 11/3/15 at 6:48 am
SIAP
Here is the link with the explanation, it's pretty long
LINK
This excerpt mostly sums up his ideas, he has a ton of examples
Here is the link with the explanation, it's pretty long
LINK
This excerpt mostly sums up his ideas, he has a ton of examples
quote:
As we all know, one of Lucas' big deals with the prequels was that they were intended to "rhyme" and mirror the original trilogy in terms of general narrative themes. So there should have been a seemingly innocent creature found on the side of the road that later reveals itself as a major player. We do have a creature that this seems to describe precisely... Jar Jar... but of course he never develops into a "master" anything.
Here's what I think happened: I think that Jar Jar was initially intended to be the prequel (and Dark Side) equivalent of Yoda. Just as Yoda has his "big reveal" when we learn that his tottering, geriatric goofball persona is just a mask, Jar Jar was intended to have a big reveal in Episode II or III where we learn that he's not really a naive dope, but rather a master puppeteer Sith in league with (or perhaps in charge of) Palpatine.
However, George Lucas chickened out. The fan reaction to Jar Jar was so vitriolic that this aspect of the trilogy was abandoned. Just too risky... if Jar Jar is truly that off-putting, it's potentially ruinous to the Star Wars legacy to imply that he's the ultimate bad guy of the entire saga. So pretend he was just a failed attempt at comic relief instead.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 6:55 am to Tiger1242
This is worse than the theory that Ben Affleck wasn't batman and that Christian Bale was coming back.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 6:55 am to Tiger1242
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:07 am to WalkingTurtles
Hey it's not my theory
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:31 am to Tiger1242
That theory is worse than the actual character.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:55 am to Tiger1242
Is there anything worse than fan theories? I don't think there is.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:01 am to LeonPhelps
quote:
Is there anything worse than fan theories?
Every single post you make is worse than any fan theory out there
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:03 am to Tiger1242
I rewatched episode one after reading that.
He isn't wrong. In episode one he does actually pretty clearly use force influence over a few people.
He also executes a pretty insane midair force jump at the end.
He also forces the meeting between anakin and the jedi.
If you watch him carefully during the whole movie, his behavior is rather...sinister.
He isn't wrong. In episode one he does actually pretty clearly use force influence over a few people.
He also executes a pretty insane midair force jump at the end.
He also forces the meeting between anakin and the jedi.
If you watch him carefully during the whole movie, his behavior is rather...sinister.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:55 am to X123F45
It makes sense. As does Lucas completely "over cooking" the character. Which he did.
Maybe if Frank Oz did Jar Jar?
Maybe if Frank Oz did Jar Jar?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:31 am to X123F45
quote:
Rando
No. Just no.
ETA: Not to mention that this theory would blatantly break the number one tenant of being a Sith (There are only 2). Jar Jar was just a pawn, nothing more.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 10:44 am
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:12 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
There are only 2
Common practice for each of those two to have a replacement in the works.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:23 pm to Tiger1242
quote:
As we all know, one of Lucas' big deals with the prequels was that they were intended to "rhyme" and mirror the original trilogy in terms of general narrative themes. So there should have been a seemingly innocent creature found on the side of the road that later reveals itself as a major player. We do have a creature that this seems to describe precisely... Jar Jar... but of course he never develops into a "master" anything.
Here's what I think happened: I think that Jar Jar was initially intended to be the prequel (and Dark Side) equivalent of Yoda. Just as Yoda has his "big reveal" when we learn that his tottering, geriatric goofball persona is just a mask, Jar Jar was intended to have a big reveal in Episode II or III where we learn that he's not really a naive dope, but rather a master puppeteer Sith in league with (or perhaps in charge of) Palpatine.
However, George Lucas chickened out. The fan reaction to Jar Jar was so vitriolic that this aspect of the trilogy was abandoned. Just too risky... if Jar Jar is truly that off-putting, it's potentially ruinous to the Star Wars legacy to imply that he's the ultimate bad guy of the entire saga. So pretend he was just a failed attempt at comic relief instead.
If this were true, it would have made Jar Jar a FAR more interesting character (and interesting characters are what the prequels were in dire need of).
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:23 pm to X123F45
Yea, but this isn't a case where a replacement is in the works. In AOTC, if Jar Jar was the Sith Master over Palpatine, then there would be clearly 3. Maul was not just a replacement or secret apprentice or anything. He was fully trained. It would break the fundamental Sith rule, the same rule that at the end of the film they make sure you know. That alone debunks this theory.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:24 pm to Tiger1242
seems plausible.. good read
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:54 pm to Tiger1242
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 4:23 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
Does the link answer the question: If Binks is Palpatine's master, who trained Binks?
Give the age of each, I suppose binks could have been Plagues trainer, who trained palpatine only to be killed by him, who could have been further trained by binks.
The real question, where does binks end up?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 4:25 pm to X123F45
Well, Google say Jar Jar is around 20 during TPM, so lets go ahead and put this to rest
Posted on 11/3/15 at 4:28 pm to X123F45
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:33 pm to Tiger1242
If Jar Jar is Supreme Leader Snoke, I'll snap.
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