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Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:08 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Nurse Chapel could get it. She's my guilty pleasure.
There are rules!
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:04 am to skrayper
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There are rules!
Posted on 7/27/23 at 5:47 pm to bluestem75
Okay, new episode is out… spoilery post below.
A couple of thoughts on this one… I never really bought into the Nurse Chapel/Dr. M’Benga as scarred war veterans thing. It seems like an odd choice. And then there’s Ensign Ortega who is also a scarred war veteran… and all of them have crippling PTSD. I get it. I know PTSD is a thing. But we are going three for three here. Seems high.
Also… we may see the beginning of how M’Benga finds his way off the Enterprise.
Episode is here and there. It’s a good episode, but it’s close for me.
A couple of thoughts on this one… I never really bought into the Nurse Chapel/Dr. M’Benga as scarred war veterans thing. It seems like an odd choice. And then there’s Ensign Ortega who is also a scarred war veteran… and all of them have crippling PTSD. I get it. I know PTSD is a thing. But we are going three for three here. Seems high.
Also… we may see the beginning of how M’Benga finds his way off the Enterprise.
Episode is here and there. It’s a good episode, but it’s close for me.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:59 pm to SpqrTiger
Great episode, very intense, but this series needs a fight choreographer, bad.
Just watched the cartoon crossover as well. fricking hilarious.
Just watched the cartoon crossover as well. fricking hilarious.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:31 am to Fewer Kilometers
Enjoyed the crossover - for those who don't watch Below Decks, give it a shot.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 2:04 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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For some reason, episode 7 dropped only 3 days after episode 6. EP 7: "These Old Scientists" is the crossover episode where Boimler and Mariner from "Lower Desks" travels back in time to meet the crew of Pikes Enterprise as live characters.
I completely missed this episode, I didn’t even realize it was out yesterday when I watched the new episode.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:59 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Ep8 "Under The Cloak of War" is out.
This was an excellent episode. Absolutely excellent. This connects the TOS Episode "Day of The Dove" when The Enterprise was Forced to a Klingon Crew by an alien entity. Where it connects is McCoy, Kirk and Spock are speaking of the Klingon brutality during the war.
Ep8 gives us a deep back story with M'Benga and Chapel along with Ortegas with their animosity towards the Klingons and the PSTD they have.
We also are treated to a cameo by Clint Howard which the hard core Trek fans will know as "Balok" from TOS.
This was a really heavy episode that was handled really well. I'm glad next weeks episode is going to by light hearted after this weeks.
This was an excellent episode. Absolutely excellent. This connects the TOS Episode "Day of The Dove" when The Enterprise was Forced to a Klingon Crew by an alien entity. Where it connects is McCoy, Kirk and Spock are speaking of the Klingon brutality during the war.
Ep8 gives us a deep back story with M'Benga and Chapel along with Ortegas with their animosity towards the Klingons and the PSTD they have.
We also are treated to a cameo by Clint Howard which the hard core Trek fans will know as "Balok" from TOS.
This was a really heavy episode that was handled really well. I'm glad next weeks episode is going to by light hearted after this weeks.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:41 pm to CU_Tigers4life
So the doctor is now some super assassin capable of killing dozens of Klingons in hand-to-hand combat? This is getting just silly.
The original series had great stories with consistent characters. They didn't rely on gimmicks of the week to make things interesting. This season has been a disappointment after the writing in the first season.
The original series had great stories with consistent characters. They didn't rely on gimmicks of the week to make things interesting. This season has been a disappointment after the writing in the first season.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:33 pm to RougeDawg
WTF did I just watch?
M’benga killed an ambassador in cold blood and Pike acts like it’s not a big deal? I don’t care about his reasoning. He’s a Starfleet officer and the Chief Medical Officer on the flagship. Completely irredeemable character at this point. I don’t really want to watch another episode with him in it.
Chappell covering for him is just as bad. It makes sense that she would, given their past, but both should be locked up in the brig awaiting trial.
Una gets dragged to court for lying on her Starfleet application, but these two skate by on murder and covering for it? Wow.
M’benga killed an ambassador in cold blood and Pike acts like it’s not a big deal? I don’t care about his reasoning. He’s a Starfleet officer and the Chief Medical Officer on the flagship. Completely irredeemable character at this point. I don’t really want to watch another episode with him in it.
Chappell covering for him is just as bad. It makes sense that she would, given their past, but both should be locked up in the brig awaiting trial.
Una gets dragged to court for lying on her Starfleet application, but these two skate by on murder and covering for it? Wow.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:24 pm to bluestem75
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M’benga killed an ambassador in cold blood and Pike acts like it’s not a big deal? I don’t care about his reasoning. He’s a Starfleet officer and the Chief Medical Officer on the flagship. Completely irredeemable character at this point. I don’t really want to watch another episode with him in it.
I doubt both of them just walk away from doing what he did, even though his reasoning for killing the ambassador would be fine with me.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:50 am to bluestem75
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WTF did I just watch? M’benga killed an ambassador in cold blood and Pike acts like it’s not a big deal? I don’t care about his reasoning. He’s a Starfleet officer and the Chief Medical Officer on the flagship. Completely irredeemable character at this point. I don’t really want to watch another episode with him in it. Chappell covering for him is just as bad. It makes sense that she would, given their past, but both should be locked up in the brig awaiting trial. Una gets dragged to court for lying on her Starfleet application, but these two skate by on murder and covering for it? Wow.
Supposedly, they meant to show ambiguity regarding whether it was self-defense or murder. I read an article that says multiple versions of the confrontation were in fact filmed, and ambiguous version was chosen. If it was self defense, the M’Benga likely might escape punishment but it wouldn’t be shocking to see him removed of his duties as chief medical officer on the enterprise. He does appear in TOS as a doctor in Private Little War I believe.
The biggest question to me is, are there really no cameras in sick bay on the enterprise that would have caught this event?
And as a trek-nerd, what about when Scotty was accused of murder, but turns out it was really Winnie the Pooh/Ripper?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:08 am to bluestem75
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M’benga killed an ambassador in cold blood and Pike acts like it’s not a big deal? I don’t care about his reasoning. He’s a Starfleet officer and the Chief Medical Officer on the flagship.
I thought about this and initially agreed with you when I first saw it. Then I remembered Worf got nothing but a demerit for hunting and murdering Duras in front of Riker. It was out of revenge but Worf was the aggressor and got little more than a scalding for killing the leader of one the most important families in the Klingon Empire.
I do agree with the point that turning the doctor into some super soldier was a weird character turn to take with him. I think they implied it was his life before medicine, but still a weird decision.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 7:11 am
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:17 am to lsusa
quote:You're handicapping the writers if you set this in a world where cameras and mics record every public room and corridor in the ship. And even hospitals have private areas without security cameras.
The biggest question to me is, are there really no cameras in sick bay on the enterprise that would have caught this event?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:48 am to lsusa
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He does appear in TOS as a doctor in Private Little War I believe.
This is correct, he was the medical expert on Vulcans. I've been wondering how he went from Chief Medical Officer in SNW to just another doctor under McCoy in TOS and maybe this episode is the beginning of that.
Just a guess of course
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:28 pm to lsusa
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The biggest question to me is, are there really no cameras in sick bay on the enterprise that would have caught this event?
If it's a waiting room or something like that, seems reasonable. But if it's where medical consultations, treatments and procedures might take place, I think it's highly unlikely. But ofcourse I'm speaking with modern day ethical bias. Perhaps the Star Trek universe might have a different take on such things.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:20 pm to ouflak
How many times in TOS did they find a dead or unconscious red shirt in a hallway, or an ambassador shoved into a Jefferies Tube? A poorly monitored Enterprise is a Star Trek staple.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 4:33 pm to bluestem75
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WTF did I just watch?
M’benga killed an ambassador in cold blood and Pike acts like it’s not a big deal? I don’t care about his reasoning. He’s a Starfleet officer and the Chief Medical Officer on the flagship. Completely irredeemable character at this point. I don’t really want to watch another episode with him in it.
Chappell covering for him is just as bad. It makes sense that she would, given their past, but both should be locked up in the brig awaiting trial.
Una gets dragged to court for lying on her Starfleet application, but these two skate by on murder and covering for it? Wow.
War affects people differently and when you are in the middle of it seeing your people slaughtered it might get into your head. Also, he was using a drug to elevate his his strength and reflexes.
Did you stop Watching DS9 when Sisko, in the act of vengeance, use a bioweapon to capture Eddington?
War is hell....that's the message I got out of it.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:17 am to CU_Tigers4life
Episode 9 - Strange New Worlds the musical just dropped….
I’ll say that overall, I appreciate the creativity at least. The music almost got to the point in about the third song where I thought “I’m Turning this off” but then they paced it much better….
Just some random thoughts on the episode-
(Spoilers to follow….)
Thank goodness Luan pointed out the singing was a “security risk”!
Kirk was on the episode, and we found out that he and Carol Marcus were dating and she’s pregnant…kinda shut off the Luan situation
The Spock - Chapel relationship came to a conclusion that fits well with the canon. Since they’d already made Spock human in the episode where they first hooked up, I’m guessing the musical episode was primarily concocted so that he could express his emotions on the matter.
Chapel got a fellowship to work with her future fiancé Dr Roger Korby. M’Benga described him as “the
Pasteur of archaeological medicine", which were the exact words used by Spock in the TOS episode “what little girls are made of”.
The Klingons singing boy band style was hilarious.
I thought it was a nice touch ending the musical number by going into the tv series theme.
A little disappointed that this was the second to last episode of the season. I’d like to see a few more episodes where pike, Spock and Luan beam down to a plantet full of ninjas and samurai,
Or where cats keep people as pets or find everyone that went into the Bermuda Triangle or something.
I’ll say that overall, I appreciate the creativity at least. The music almost got to the point in about the third song where I thought “I’m Turning this off” but then they paced it much better….
Just some random thoughts on the episode-
(Spoilers to follow….)
Thank goodness Luan pointed out the singing was a “security risk”!
Kirk was on the episode, and we found out that he and Carol Marcus were dating and she’s pregnant…kinda shut off the Luan situation
The Spock - Chapel relationship came to a conclusion that fits well with the canon. Since they’d already made Spock human in the episode where they first hooked up, I’m guessing the musical episode was primarily concocted so that he could express his emotions on the matter.
Chapel got a fellowship to work with her future fiancé Dr Roger Korby. M’Benga described him as “the
Pasteur of archaeological medicine", which were the exact words used by Spock in the TOS episode “what little girls are made of”.
The Klingons singing boy band style was hilarious.
I thought it was a nice touch ending the musical number by going into the tv series theme.
A little disappointed that this was the second to last episode of the season. I’d like to see a few more episodes where pike, Spock and Luan beam down to a plantet full of ninjas and samurai,
Or where cats keep people as pets or find everyone that went into the Bermuda Triangle or something.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:41 am to lsusa
La’an has a great voice if that’s really her.
Also a smoke show IRL
Also a smoke show IRL
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 8:43 am
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