re: Spectre > Skyfall

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still can't find a reasonable explanation as to why that net was there

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the building had a bomb go off last movie that left a hole straight down to the bottom floor. People had to work on site so a net is put in place to catch debris since the structure of the building is compromised.

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What did they cut out?

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From memory:

-The subplot had a better buildup and more screentime. I recall the 9 eyes vote being talked about more instead of jumping right to it. Additionally, M eventually knew what Bond was up to and trusted old M's instincts because he confronted Moneypenny (after C gave him cellphone transcripts) and she spilled the beans.

-At the funeral, Blofield is a shadowy figure in the distance who never takes his eyes off Bond.

-The meeting was longer and far more eerie. Bond arrives at the meeting right before it begins. Blofield enters (similar to the movie) that's when the meeting begins. You hear more in depth about the different divisions of Spectre and there are multiple translators (which makes more sense). Blofield finally speaks and gives an eerie speech. Bond realizes during the middle of it that Blofield is talking about him and that's when Blofield singles him out (but I don't beleive he called Bond by name). Also, we or Bond never see Blofield's face at the meeting.

-The identity of The Pale King was kept a secret until Bond laid eyes on him in the panic room

-Swan actually liked Bond at first and wanted to screw him after she got sloshed, but Bond wouldn't do anything with her out of respect to her dad and his word to him. Plus he was hell bent on figuring out why they were at that hotel.

-The conversation on the train was more serious. She picked his brain while asking if he ever dreams, has ever been in love, if she died and was he there when his love died.

-In the control room, Blofield demonstrated how powerful he was by blowing up a building with a single push of a button on a tablet (and it tied into the story somehow - it may have been South Africa but I'm not 100% certain).

-There was no torture scene, instead, Blofield and Bond have dinner as planned (and it sounds stupid, but trust me, rewriting this was the biggest mistake. This scene was very intense and the dialogue was top notch. They end up playing a card game for hazelnuts (it was a game Blofield beat Bond at as a kid and it pissed Bond off when he was a child). Blofield made the same remarks about cuckoo and how the father took up more time with Bond. But while the father taught Bond to play cards, he secretly watched in the shadows and learned, which lead to him beating Bond as a kid and Bond was pissed because he hated losing. It's revealed that Blofield was ALSO adopted by this family and his real name all along was Blofield. His real parents were spies who were caught selling secret government information to terrorists and were executed before his very eyes. Blofield says if Bond wins the card game, then only Bond will die and Swan lives and is free to go but if he wins, Bond and Swan both die. Blofield wins the game, but Bond offers one more round to play for his "watch". Bond intentionally loses and hands over the watch. Just before Swan is executed first, Bond flips the table and the watch explodes. Then all hell breaks loose.

-Bond returned to London to kill C. Before he blew up Blofield's base, he stole a hard drive to take back to prove Spectre's existence and C's connection to the organization. They all believed Blofield was dead.

-When Bond and Swan part ways in the street (it's just those two as Bond is doing this on his own) she tells him to let his friends take over (they all believed Blofield was dead). Bond refuses and says he has to finish the job. She reminds him that life is a choice which was taken from dialogue on the train that was cut out. He refuses to go with her and kisses her, then walks away.

-C had a plan to link M to all of the terror attacks in order to keep the organization a secret. In the script, he fires M immediately after taking over. In the script, he's also a family man with two kids instead of just a random individual with no details provided above the surface.

-C basically tells Bond Spectre can't be stopped as they're global in every country. Bond kills C. Shortly after, there's a blackout in London. Surveillance screens turn on revealing Blofield who is heavily disfigured. He talks directly to Bond (but i don't recall what he says). Bond runs out searching for Blofield and sees a light glimmering in a window at the old MI6 hq. He runs in and enters Blofield's maze. The entire time, Blofield is narrating and teasing Bond over a speaker. The script version was more creative and more haunting. The rest is similar to the movie (ie he finds Blofield behind the glass). But Blofield lies about where to find Swan, telling Bond "you might start by looking where your old dead boss used to dream up her nightmares"

-Blofield needed to die on the bridge and wanted to (I believe so they would have no other leads to Spectre). There was more dialogue between Bond/Blofield. I remember Blofield had a gun and killed his pilot after the crash. He also killed two cops who arrived on the scene. He taunted Bond but Bond refused to give in and kill him.

There were a lot of small moments that should have been kept as well (ie the post title sequence scene begins with Bond walking through the halls of MI6 noticing a rather unusual environment - security cameras being installed and many peons acting paranoid and Moneypenny barely acknowledging him). Plus, Bond doesn't trust C and is a complete dick when they first meet one another.

Bond also had more "Bond wit" rather than the bland comebacks that were in the film (this was the biggest surprise to me).

That would have made a good movie great.

It also would have been 3 hours long.

Daniel Craig is horrible.

Bond is a hero. He not the average human. But if you recall the way the procedure was described required an exact and precise execution. He must have missed the mark.

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During the torture scenes, when blofeld is drilling into his head and describing what he was doing.. Bond doesn't lose balance/coordination and doesn't forget swann... Did he miss his mark?

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I think he missed on purpose. Besides the fact that permanently incapacitating Bond would essentially end the rest of the film and the series, I don't think Blofeld truly wants Bond out of the picture.

I think it's similar to the Joker and Batman, he see Bond as his true equal, and probably enjoys the and psychological torture and rivalry more than anything else. If Bond and the challenge is gone, it would be a lot less "fun."

I didn't like this one as much as Casino Royal or Skyfall.

The opening theme is on a bad level like "Die another Day"

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We get Blofield and waste a great actor, with few Waltz scenes. It's predictable from the beginning that "C" was in on it, for a real twist "M" should have been the bad guy IMO.
Weird twist that James and Blofeld were like brothers as kids.

I think we should have gotten the "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" ending. James leaves MI:6, gets married and BAM Blofield shoots his wife in the head. roll credits.

Instead we got a lot of Helicopter fighting. Could you really take down a Helicopter from 200 yards on a moving boat with a 9mm? Well Bond did.

Once I saw the white cat, I knew he was for sure Blofield.
Not a bad Bond movie, but more middle of the pack.

I thought it was on the low end of the Craig bond movies


Skyfall > spectre

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BradPitt

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Was all that cut from the script, or from the movie (i.e., was it left on the cutting room floor)?

I would live to see some of that put in as a "director's cut."

Just curious, but why would Blofeld agree to a rematch for the watch, when he could just get on with the executions and take it after?