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re: Rush Limbaugh doesn't want Idris Elba as Bond. ..
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:13 am to Twenty 49
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:13 am to Twenty 49
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Rush and his ilk are like professional wrestlers. He goes with a storyline that will stir controversy and get people riled up and paying attention to him. He knows playing the race issue guarantees that. Suckers take the bait.
This. He gets kind of desperate to stay relevant in whatever ways he can and says controversial things just for that purpose.
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:13 am to FT
I could dig it but with this country 
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:38 am to Captain Crown
I don't want a black guy cast as James Bond either.
That's not to say that a black man CAN'T be James Bond. It's my personal preference. When I think of James Bond, I think of a tall, suave white Englishman.
I think casting a black man as Bond would be as out of place as casting a short, fat white English guy as James Bond.
The argument isn't over whether a black man can play an English character. I mean, a short fat white guy can, too. But neither is true to the source material, and changing the race of a character is kind of a big change.
If you want a black secret agent for the new generation, I say write one. Let that character stand on his own. If tall, white, debonair Englishman isn't working for Bond, then let it fail. It kinda isn't, though.
Skyfall = $1,108,561,013 worldwide.
Stop it with the racial and gender stunt casting. It's bullshite.
That's not to say that a black man CAN'T be James Bond. It's my personal preference. When I think of James Bond, I think of a tall, suave white Englishman.
I think casting a black man as Bond would be as out of place as casting a short, fat white English guy as James Bond.
The argument isn't over whether a black man can play an English character. I mean, a short fat white guy can, too. But neither is true to the source material, and changing the race of a character is kind of a big change.
If you want a black secret agent for the new generation, I say write one. Let that character stand on his own. If tall, white, debonair Englishman isn't working for Bond, then let it fail. It kinda isn't, though.
Skyfall = $1,108,561,013 worldwide.
Stop it with the racial and gender stunt casting. It's bullshite.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:43 am to Michael T. Tiger
Not really. You and a few other posters just got really angry and defensive for son reason.
Everyone else was kind of on the fence or open to the idea.
Also I find it funny that nobody cares about historic accuracy or source material unless its white to black. When Hollywood white washes movies(Exodus) nobody really cares. Weird.
As a matter of fact I remember Jolie being casted to play an ethnic role that required her to wear makeup. She was credited for her depth.
Now with that being said I don't have a problem with people wanting a white Bond because they like things to be what they are. Just be consistent in your"outrage," which of course they never are.
As for Rush, he is a simple race pimp. No more or no less. He U.S. no better then Al or Jessie.
Everyone else was kind of on the fence or open to the idea.
Also I find it funny that nobody cares about historic accuracy or source material unless its white to black. When Hollywood white washes movies(Exodus) nobody really cares. Weird.
As a matter of fact I remember Jolie being casted to play an ethnic role that required her to wear makeup. She was credited for her depth.
Now with that being said I don't have a problem with people wanting a white Bond because they like things to be what they are. Just be consistent in your"outrage," which of course they never are.
As for Rush, he is a simple race pimp. No more or no less. He U.S. no better then Al or Jessie.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:51 am to bigpetedatiga
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Also I find it funny that nobody cares about historic accuracy or source material unless its white to black. When Hollywood white washes movies(Exodus) nobody really cares. Weird.
Now you are just trolling. You couldn't open your browser to a news site or turn on your damn tv without hearing about how historically inaccurate it was to cast whites in these roles.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:54 am to SpqrTiger
quote:I honestly don't think Elba would be a stunt. He's English and I've thought he'd make a great Bond almost since I first saw him.
Stop it with the racial and gender stunt casting. It's bullshite.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:58 am to FT
If Pierce Brosnan can be James Bond, then Idris certainly could fit the bill. My wife has more a more muscle tone than that pansy Brosnan!
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:01 am to FT
I don't want Idris Elba as James Bond.
I'm sorry, but not everything has to be both black and white.
I'm sorry, but not everything has to be both black and white.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:04 am to Scruffy
quote:I believe you. It's not like I think everyone opposed to it is being some kind of awful racist. Like, you might just not like him as an actor, or you could be a fanboy that wants him to look like the guy in the books. That's totally cool.
I'm sorry, but not everything has to be both black and white.
My issue is with Rush, in the points I already made.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:06 am to Scruffy
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I don't want Idris Elba as James Bond.
Why?
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I'm sorry, but not everything has to be both black and white.
I agree, but I do not think that are pushing Elba because he is black, I think they are looking at him because of his acting ability, accent, and the chance to take the movie in a different direction.
If anything, looking at Sony's views about black leads, it would lead you to think they must really like him to even be considering him.
Like I said, personally I do not have a problem either way, but I think if he was cast it would be a major blow to the studio financially. I just do not think the support would be there.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:08 am to FT
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I believe you. It's not like I think everyone opposed to it is being some kind of awful racist.
Yup
However, people like Rush just seem to be real inconsistent on these type of issues that the push.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:09 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:Because the character is white.
Why?
quote:I agree.
I think if he was cast it would be a major blow to the studio financially. I just do not think the support would be there.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:09 am to Korin
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He was telling the truth about McNabb.
No he wasn't. Once again he was race baiting and got canned from a network that wouldn't let him.
Keep in mind this is the same guy who said the majority of NFL games look like the crips vs. the bloods.
Just my opinion though.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:11 am to Scruffy
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Because the character is white.
Yeah, but movies are modernized all the time. I just don't see it as a character deal breaker, but I respect your opinion.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:11 am to FT
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I honestly don't think Elba would be a stunt. He's English and I've thought he'd make a great Bond almost since I first saw him.
Yeah, the idea that Idris f'n Elba would be stunt casting is ridiculous. He's one of the best known young British actors who could also pull off an action movie role. He can be both refined and physical. He meets all of the prerequisites for being Bond other than melanin, and who really gives a crap? It's not an important part of the character (like being British is, but what is British has changed). I don't think they should be looking for a "black Bond", they should be looking for the best option regardless of color, and Elba would certainly be on the list if he were white.
Looking at comic book properties, I don't mind changing the race of characters because a lot of those characters were created prior to the 1960s, and the creators never would have considered making them anything other than white. In only a few cases is the race an inherent part of the characters (changing Nick Fury doesn't bother me, nor would the proposed Donald Glover Spider-Man, the Human Torch bothers me so long as he's a different race as his sister -- which is to say Sue should be black, too, but Hollywood is way too cowardly to have an interracial couple in a tentpole film because they are hypocrites)
ETA: This is also to say I'm real curious how Marvel marginalizes Luke Cage and Jessica Jones' relationship. Cage is one of the major characters of the past 10-20 years, though I think you can justify leaving him out of the 1st Avengers film. But his continued absence (especially in relation to second tier heroes like Ant-Man) speaks volumes.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 9:18 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:13 am to bigpetedatiga
quote:Just out of curiosity, how is changing the main character's race "modernization"?
Yeah, but movies are modernized all the time.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 9:14 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:14 am to Baloo
Spot on brother, spot on!
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:26 am to Scruffy
quote:I don't think it's modernization, so much as being willing to be flexible or progressive in making changes to the franchise.
Just out of curiosity, how is changing the main character's race "modernization"?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:32 am to FT
quote:The director and producers can very easily be flexible.
I don't think it's modernization, so much as being willing to be flexible or progressive in making changes to the franchise.
Do you expect society to be flexible?
I doubt this would be a smart move financially, but any opposition will be portrayed as racist, and there will be opposition.
Personally, I don't like changing characters simply for the sake of changing.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:36 am to Scruffy
quote:And if they were casting Will Smith, I'd agree. But they're choosing someone who's legitimately an amazing actor for a role he would crush.
Personally, I don't like changing characters simply for the sake of changing.
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